Comments on: The Wrestler’s Dilemma and the Athletic Component http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2010/09/01/the-wrestlers-dilemma-and-the-athletic-component/ MMA Opinion and Cheap MMA Gear Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:45:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: edub http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2010/09/01/the-wrestlers-dilemma-and-the-athletic-component/comment-page-1/#comment-13565 edub Tue, 07 Sep 2010 01:57:43 +0000 http://mmaopinion.com/?p=4989#comment-13565 But GSP doesn't dominate because of his belt in BJJ. He dominates because he can take anyone down at anytime he wants, and his hips are probably the best in the sport. Same with Edgar. He has added extra skills and his footwork and striking probably put him over the edge against BJ. But his wrestling was what won him the fight. Taking BJ down almost at will, Being able to buck and move BJ in to postitions while they are bucking on the ground is really a beuatiful site to see. Wrestling is easily the best discipline to start with for MMA... But GSP doesn’t dominate because of his belt in BJJ. He dominates because he can take anyone down at anytime he wants, and his hips are probably the best in the sport.

Same with Edgar. He has added extra skills and his footwork and striking probably put him over the edge against BJ. But his wrestling was what won him the fight. Taking BJ down almost at will, Being able to buck and move BJ in to postitions while they are bucking on the ground is really a beuatiful site to see.

Wrestling is easily the best discipline to start with for MMA…

]]> By: edub http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2010/09/01/the-wrestlers-dilemma-and-the-athletic-component/comment-page-1/#comment-13564 edub Tue, 07 Sep 2010 01:52:29 +0000 http://mmaopinion.com/?p=4989#comment-13564 I don't think he would. There's no comparing Miletich with Hughes or GSP for that matter. Both are in a league above him. I don’t think he would. There’s no comparing Miletich with Hughes or GSP for that matter. Both are in a league above him.

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]]> By: wardog http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2010/09/01/the-wrestlers-dilemma-and-the-athletic-component/comment-page-1/#comment-13543 wardog Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:57:16 +0000 http://mmaopinion.com/?p=4989#comment-13543 Josh to add to this debate GSP is a black belt in BJJ, and actually has more training in that than wrestling. Also Edgar is a purple belt. Shogun has a black belt as does Anderson Silva, so 3 title holders have black belts while 2 have wrestling pedigrees. I do agree with the athleticism of wrestlers and the ability to cut weight, Militech has also stated that the sport develops explosive strength in those who participate. I believe that wrestlers are becoming more successful because they are adapting to areas of the sport more quickly than others who have come up in other disciplines. Add their athleticism and wrestling with striking and submissions you get a better fighter. GSP seemed to work backwards, but he has been effective none the less. Bill Josh to add to this debate GSP is a black belt in BJJ, and actually has more training in that than wrestling. Also Edgar is a purple belt. Shogun has a black belt as does Anderson Silva, so 3 title holders have black belts while 2 have wrestling pedigrees.
I do agree with the athleticism of wrestlers and the ability to cut weight, Militech has also stated that the sport develops explosive strength in those who participate. I believe that wrestlers are becoming more successful because they are adapting to areas of the sport more quickly than others who have come up in other disciplines. Add their athleticism and wrestling with striking and submissions you get a better fighter. GSP seemed to work backwards, but he has been effective none the less.
Bill

]]> By: Josh Stein http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2010/09/01/the-wrestlers-dilemma-and-the-athletic-component/comment-page-1/#comment-13541 Josh Stein Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:25:36 +0000 http://mmaopinion.com/?p=4989#comment-13541 Haha, well, I dispute your citing the "two best 170 pound fighters." Pat Miletich would, too. I'm not sure that I agree that "none have been as useful as wrestling." It does seem to fluctuate with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, historically. But we've been having this conversation for a long time, and I'm sure it will continue. Haha, well, I dispute your citing the “two best 170 pound fighters.” Pat Miletich would, too.

I’m not sure that I agree that “none have been as useful as wrestling.” It does seem to fluctuate with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, historically.

But we’ve been having this conversation for a long time, and I’m sure it will continue.

]]> By: Curtis http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2010/09/01/the-wrestlers-dilemma-and-the-athletic-component/comment-page-1/#comment-13540 Curtis Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:34:16 +0000 http://mmaopinion.com/?p=4989#comment-13540 Josh, Feels like we have had this talk before. You know I am a fan of the athletic wrestlers. It is not a coincidence that the two best 170 pound fighters in UFC history were great wrestlers. While other variations of combat sport transfer well to the cage, none have been as useful as wrestling. Wrestling is different because it can be used in all aspects of MMA. If you are fighting a boxer, take him down. If you are fighting a Thai fighter, catch the leg. it even helps against the best of BJJ...just ask Royce... Sorry to write a long comment.... Josh,
Feels like we have had this talk before. You know I am a fan of the athletic wrestlers.

It is not a coincidence that the two best 170 pound fighters in UFC history were great wrestlers.

While other variations of combat sport transfer well to the cage, none have been as useful as wrestling.

Wrestling is different because it can be used in all aspects of MMA. If you are fighting a boxer, take him down. If you are fighting a Thai fighter, catch the leg. it even helps against the best of BJJ…just ask Royce…

Sorry to write a long comment….

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