Comments on: Is Forrest Griffin overrated? http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2009/11/10/4280/ MMA Opinion and Cheap MMA Gear Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:45:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: wardog http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2009/11/10/4280/comment-page-1/#comment-11235 wardog Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:26:42 +0000 http://mmaopinion.com/2009/11/10/4280/#comment-11235 You are right he wasn't dominated by Jardine, it was an even fight, until the last 30 seconds of round 1. Then it was a beat down, if he wasn't dominated. But Griffin also did nothing in it. Also he did not stand out in the Evans fight either. But I say if am man beats you to tears and running away, then you got dominated. And I like Forrest, the reality is he is inconsistent, and all this "he's a dog" and a "muthafin fighter" talk does not change the fact that he is not that skilled. You are right he wasn’t dominated by Jardine, it was an even fight, until the last 30 seconds of round 1. Then it was a beat down, if he wasn’t dominated. But Griffin also did nothing in it. Also he did not stand out in the Evans fight either. But I say if am man beats you to tears and running away, then you got dominated. And I like Forrest, the reality is he is inconsistent, and all this “he’s a dog” and a “muthafin fighter” talk does not change the fact that he is not that skilled.

]]> By: mattio http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2009/11/10/4280/comment-page-1/#comment-11229 mattio Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:46:45 +0000 http://mmaopinion.com/2009/11/10/4280/#comment-11229 I don't like Forrest Griffin. I think he has very little power. It's almost like he plans to go the full 3 or 5 rounds when he fights. That is so boring. Imagine if every fighter had the same gameplan as Forrest (circle around and lightly paw at my opponent for 3 or 5 rounds) before a fight? MMA would quickly become unwatchable. He's been doing this professional fighting thing for a long time and he still doesn't have any power in those punches of his. He wants to be a technician, and go the full 3 or 5 rounds every time. Thankfully there are fighters out there who don't go for that type of fighting and look to win by knockout. If I was the matchmaker, I would match Forrest up against strikers from here on out. Mean, ferocious strikers at that. Don't let his fights go to the judges' scorecards ever again. Let him keep losing until he gets some power in those punches of his. Sadly, he's got Tito next, and he will probably play patty-cake punch with him for 3 rounds until it goes to the judges' scorecards. I don’t like Forrest Griffin. I think he has very little power. It’s almost like he plans to go the full 3 or 5 rounds when he fights. That is so boring. Imagine if every fighter had the same gameplan as Forrest (circle around and lightly paw at my opponent for 3 or 5 rounds) before a fight? MMA would quickly become unwatchable.

He’s been doing this professional fighting thing for a long time and he still doesn’t have any power in those punches of his. He wants to be a technician, and go the full 3 or 5 rounds every time. Thankfully there are fighters out there who don’t go for that type of fighting and look to win by knockout.

If I was the matchmaker, I would match Forrest up against strikers from here on out. Mean, ferocious strikers at that. Don’t let his fights go to the judges’ scorecards ever again. Let him keep losing until he gets some power in those punches of his.

Sadly, he’s got Tito next, and he will probably play patty-cake punch with him for 3 rounds until it goes to the judges’ scorecards.

]]> By: VEe! http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2009/11/10/4280/comment-page-1/#comment-11226 VEe! Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:46:22 +0000 http://mmaopinion.com/2009/11/10/4280/#comment-11226 (Long Rant and kinf of all over the place) Curtis his the problem. The UFC spends a lot of money promoting their shows and advertising. They're the biggest ticket in town. So MMA fans will be inundated with repetitive hype and video footage. It's the reason why many fans could not fathom Brock Lesnar deserving, not to mention competing against Randy Couture. It is only a matter of time before Anderson Silva gets beat and his legacy will be questioned. Of all people, Fedor Emelianenko's legacy is constantly called into question by fans with serious short-term memory loss. In my opinion Fedor can lose the his next 2-3 fights against Rogers, Lesnar or Carwin and his legacy is still in tact. I personally think there are many guys in the UFC over-hyped & overrated. Shogun beats Mark Coleman in a very bad showing. This is the same Coleman that turns around and beat a very tough Bonnar, who wasn't stopped in the UFC. Then Shogun is the underdog versus Chuck Liddell based on his last fight, only to be told that he fought an old man. Now he has a great performance against Machida and now he's the proverbial sh*t?!? People still claim that Griffin dominated Shogun in their fight. Shogun busted Griffin up via g-n-p in the 1st round. I think it is very odd that many fans now acknowledge that Shogun wasn't himself against Griffin but do not acknowledge how limited Tim Sylvia was when he fought Randy Couture. The Tim Sylvia that fought Vera and Noguiera was a completely different fighter. Sigh. So is Griffin overrated? No. He is what he is, a mthufkking fighter. He was well aware that all the hype surrounding him like he was the 2nd coming of Randy Couture was very premature and over top. He has some tools that will cause many problems for fighters including Pride Grand Prix winner Mauricio Rua, and superstar Quinton Jackson. Sadly, people are judging Griffin harshly because of his loss against Silva. That was just Anderson's perfect night with a perfect performance. Just like Machida's performance against Thiago Silva and Rashad Evans. It happens but it doesn't mean Thiago Silva sucks, was overrated or anything else. He just lost a fight. --- --- Wardog, Rashad Evans did not dominate Forrest Griffin. And Keith Jardine DEFINITELY did not dominate Griffin throughout their 1 round match. The UFC will not let Griffin or Bonnar go. Dana White has said that on a number of occasions. A fighter like Bonnar would have been let go a long time ago. (Long Rant and kinf of all over the place)
Curtis his the problem. The UFC spends a lot of money promoting their shows and advertising. They’re the biggest ticket in town. So MMA fans will be inundated with repetitive hype and video footage. It’s the reason why many fans could not fathom Brock Lesnar deserving, not to mention competing against Randy Couture. It is only a matter of time before Anderson Silva gets beat and his legacy will be questioned. Of all people, Fedor Emelianenko’s legacy is constantly called into question by fans with serious short-term memory loss. In my opinion Fedor can lose the his next 2-3 fights against Rogers, Lesnar or Carwin and his legacy is still in tact.

I personally think there are many guys in the UFC over-hyped & overrated. Shogun beats Mark Coleman in a very bad showing. This is the same Coleman that turns around and beat a very tough Bonnar, who wasn’t stopped in the UFC. Then Shogun is the underdog versus Chuck Liddell based on his last fight, only to be told that he fought an old man. Now he has a great performance against Machida and now he’s the proverbial sh*t?!?
People still claim that Griffin dominated Shogun in their fight. Shogun busted Griffin up via g-n-p in the 1st round. I think it is very odd that many fans now acknowledge that Shogun wasn’t himself against Griffin but do not acknowledge how limited Tim Sylvia was when he fought Randy Couture. The Tim Sylvia that fought Vera and Noguiera was a completely different fighter.
Sigh.

So is Griffin overrated? No. He is what he is, a mthufkking fighter. He was well aware that all the hype surrounding him like he was the 2nd coming of Randy Couture was very premature and over top. He has some tools that will cause many problems for fighters including Pride Grand Prix winner Mauricio Rua, and superstar Quinton Jackson.
Sadly, people are judging Griffin harshly because of his loss against Silva. That was just Anderson’s perfect night with a perfect performance. Just like Machida’s performance against Thiago Silva and Rashad Evans. It happens but it doesn’t mean Thiago Silva sucks, was overrated or anything else. He just lost a fight.

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Wardog, Rashad Evans did not dominate Forrest Griffin. And Keith Jardine DEFINITELY did not dominate Griffin throughout their 1 round match. The UFC will not let Griffin or Bonnar go. Dana White has said that on a number of occasions. A fighter like Bonnar would have been let go a long time ago.

]]> By: wardog http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2009/11/10/4280/comment-page-1/#comment-11225 wardog Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:32:42 +0000 http://mmaopinion.com/2009/11/10/4280/#comment-11225 I wouldn't say "overrated" but maybe "over-hyped" by the UFC and some fans. If he is dominated by Tito it will definitely hurt his reputation amongst some. But Forrest has claimed that he is not "that technical a fighter" and that can be his problem. He is not that good at any facet of the game, but he is a character and he will not shy away from a challenge or fight. What hurts Forrest is that because he is a "game" fighter he can beat a lot of opponents, but because he is not that skilled of a fighter he can be dominated by not only Anderson Silva or Rashad Evans, but also those like Keith Jardine. This means that for every fight against Rampage or Shogun that he wins, he will loose to guys both top fighters and mid-tier ones. Hopefully he will beat Tito, but I cannot see the UFC letting him go. Bill I wouldn’t say “overrated” but maybe “over-hyped” by the UFC and some fans. If he is dominated by Tito it will definitely hurt his reputation amongst some. But Forrest has claimed that he is not “that technical a fighter” and that can be his problem. He is not that good at any facet of the game, but he is a character and he will not shy away from a challenge or fight.

What hurts Forrest is that because he is a “game” fighter he can beat a lot of opponents, but because he is not that skilled of a fighter he can be dominated by not only Anderson Silva or Rashad Evans, but also those like Keith Jardine. This means that for every fight against Rampage or Shogun that he wins, he will loose to guys both top fighters and mid-tier ones. Hopefully he will beat Tito, but I cannot see the UFC letting him go.
Bill

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