Silva vs. Griffin: Was the fight rigged?
By Curtis Clontz on Aug 10, 2009
No, the asnwer is no! The thing about fixed fights or sports, is that you don’t know. Don’t believe me? Tell me that you knew without a doubt that Tim Donaghy was doing anything wrong in the NBA?
Have you ever heard of the Black Sox Scandal? The 1919 World Series that was threw by the Chicago White Sox? Throughout the series rumors flew, but it was far diffferent from the Anderson Silva fight. More than 8 players were in on it, and people talk.
People are saying that the fight was rigged, but if it was would Forrest have reacted like he did? Would he have truly sprinted from the cage? Would the millions of dollars he would have made not been enough to say that Silva beat him? C’mon now.
The other thing to look at in terms of sports betting is the numbers.
If there had been an unusual amount of bets placed on Anderson Silva the red flags would be up, and we would already know about it. Forrest was a big underdog. Vegas put him as such, so that people would bet on him. Even though he would probobly lose, it was worth it for gamblers to throw down the cash in hoped of an upset, not the other way around.
The fight was not fixed. I promise you, if it was you would know about it.
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You can’t promise anything. You don’t know any better than the rest of us, including those of us who think it was rigged. Forrest’s over-exaggerated flopping of his leg when he went down for the last time kind of made me a little suspicious, but more so the way he just gave up. I’ve seen him take a lot more and keep on going. I mean if you’re going to throw a fight, why get your ass beat in the process if you don’t have to? When you think that Mr. White is having problems signing Fedor, then it kind of makes sense why he would want to secure Silva as the #1 p4p fighter in the world. I wouldn’t put it beneath someone like Dana rig a fight anyways.
LOL all of you silva fans that say it wasnt rigged make me laugh. So now to shut all of you up. Replay the video. Now anderson silve does not speak english right? Although you notice him awnsering to the first question by joe rogen speaking complete sentences in english. Saying i am proud of my victory and all that. then in the next few questions by joe, theres aboslutly no english used. Hmmm, now PLEASE come up with explanation for that. =)
“Forrest’s over-exaggerated flopping of his leg when he went down for the last time kind of made me a little suspicious”
Do you recall his over-exaggerated flopping against Rashad Evans? That’s how he falls, his arms and legs flail all over the place, looks awkward but that’s Griffin.
“I’ve seen him take a lot more and keep on going.” Have you been hit directly on the button by Anderson Silva several times? Is there a cross-comparison chart to how hard Silva hits compared to Jackson, Jardine, Evans and Rua? Are any of them as accurate and fast as Silva?
Sounds like you’re reaching for something that isn’t there and reading way too much into the past events concerning Fedor Emelianenko. It’s conjecture at best.
I think you may need a more imaginary theory with a little bit more humor.
This is such a whacked out conspiracy theory I just can’t wrap my brain around the notion that there are actually people who bit this one (though there are crazier things that have more support, so I guess I shouldn’t be too shocked).
Forrest overexaggerated flopping his legs? Really? I’ve seen fighters present that kind of leg movement after being knocked out before. It happened to Matt Lindland when he got starched by Vitor (and it freaked me out then, but it was hardly a shock).
Loss of muscle control in that degree was not shocking, especially when you consider the preceding knockdowns.
I don’t understand how establishing Anderson as the #1 pound-for-pound fighter in the world helps him at all in the publicity debate over Fedor but, then again, I’m restricted to seeing connections that make sense.
Anderson and Fedor are never going to fight, and no one in their right mind believes that Anderson stands a snowball’s chance in hell against Fedor (or, at least, they shouldn’t). If we were talking about Dana rigging fights for Brock, then there might be a valid connection there, but that’s simply not the case.
Cnana,
Really?
Nothing supports that this fight was rigged…anywhere…
I admit that the “over-exaggerated leg flopping” is a bit farfetched, I really should have said that I just wasn’t convinced with Forrest’s reaction after being hit with the shot that ended the fight. Regardless of Anderson’s precision and power, the shot that put him away was thrown in retreat, and although it landed cleanly, it was no more than a loose jab.
As for my Fedor comment, the main point I was trying to suggest is that the UFC housing the world’s best pound-for-pound fighter is a controversial statement. Fedor Emelianenko is one of the only fighters who can give Silva any competition for that title. With Fedor fighting for other organizations, the potential is there to draw crowds away from UFC. Now trying to cement Silva as the world’s best is undeniably one of Dana’s main goals, and a legitimate one when it comes down to running his business… So how does he do that? Through guaranteeing Silva a clean run through the light-heavyweight division. There is no doubt in my mind that Silva can make it to the belt, but what happens if he’s stopped in his tracks, fluke or not (Ryo Chonan anyone)?
Keep in mind I’m not trying to “argue” anything here, rather than discuss it.
Cnana, I don’t see how that’s a controversial statement, but, then again, I don’t think Anderson is “pound-for-pound” the best fighter in the world. I’m one of the people who gives that title to Fedor, straight away.
This notion that a superfight between Lyoto and Anderson is in any way good for Dana White baffles me, as well.
I mean, Lyoto’s credibility is based on being undefeated. Anderson’s is based on a completely dominant UFC run. Why would Dana jeopardize that, especially when Lyoto hasn’t really established his dominance in the lightheavyweight division?
Georges St. Pierre vs. Anderson presents a much larger potential gain for Dana, because GSP is already seen as dominant at 170 with multiple title defenses. Of course, that fight would be a massacre.
I don’t see Anderson vs. Lyoto happening.
Cnan,
This is mmaOPINION, no arguments needed…lol
Yes, you are right. Fedor is one of the best in the world. However, he will never be considered BEST because there is no one for him to fight. Overeem? He can’t fight in America because of his “special” supplements.
What happens after he beats Brett Rogers? No one is left, he will be back to fighting 7 footers and random opponents as he fades off into the sunset.
I promise you that Dana is not worried about Fedor or losing money because he is not in the UFC. Brock Lesnar has far less fights and is no where near as talented as Fedor, but he will have more draws and probably earn Dana more money in his next fight than Fedor.
I am with everyone else. I want to see Silva vs. Machida (if only to see Machida get beat), but I do think he needs another win at 205 to get the title shot. Let Tito run through Coleman then put Tito vs. Silva. Easy killer, I know Tito would get beat just as bad as the others, but it would be a huge (needs more emphasis, HUGE!) payday for the UFC just in case Machida did beat Anderson and went back to 185.
Fedor IS the Best Fighter period, just my opinion stated as a fact. Ryo Chonan will always get love for pulling off one of the best and bizarre victories ever! Cnana check out how the 1965 Ali-Liston fight ended. It was more or less the SAME punch. Let’s not forget Kimbo’s defeat to Petrucelli, weird punch. Tito recently said that he would like to test Anderson Silva. OH PLEASE MAKE THAT HAPPEN, if Tito gets past Coleman.
Check out my blog for a half-way decent Anderson Silva post. Up later in the morning.
Just read some nonsense from Sherdog forum stating that Forrest took more punishment from Stephan Bonnar and he didn’t quit.
Stephan Bonnar (squared) < Anderson Silva
To Ironman,
I agree that the super fight “Silva vs. Machida” may not be the best thing right now for the UFC, especially given the fact Machida has yet to even defend his shiny new belt. However with Anderson seeking more challenge in the light-heavies, the win against Griffin was essential to his publicity after two “lacklustre” performances (none of which I personally found degrading to his stature, although the media apparently did)
Either way, I’ve watched the fight again and am undecided on the legitimacy of it.
Guess I’ve been watching too much Zeitgeist.
Lol… next I expect someone to post how we never actually went to the moon. Chuck Liddell is famous for his knockout while retreating, yet noone claims his fights were rigged. These false claims always happen when the popular guy gets beat.
After reading the first few reply’s, I HAD to post. The one guy gave someone crap saying he has no backing on the theory and something about silvas accuracy. Well, hows this for backing, go back and watch the video again. there’s no power behind that hit. And yes, as us true Griffin fans know he could have handled that. There was something off about that fight and everyone knows it and thats why its become a topic of discussion now!
Griffin has been bet down by a lesser striker than Silva before. Jardine hit him clean and finished him up. I think Griffin was rocked early on and never fully recovered. The fact that he got back to his feet and continued fighting may be a testament to his strength. But he never had a chance after the first few strikes.
the griffen silva fight was the most riged fight ive ever seen griffen went threw a war with bonner and took sooo much more punishment in that fight for 3 rounds and most people after getting ko dont get up right after and go for a jog and griffen beat shogun considered to be one of the best lightheavy in the world and silva comes in and taps him a few times and kos him give me a break. The ufc lost a fan with that fight and strike force gained one.
I think Silva hits harder than Shogun or Bonnar and like I said more than Jardine. Forrest took every shot because he has no movement. Face facts Griffin is really not that good a fighter technically. He still is a good fighter but no one in the LHW division is as technical as Silva.
Well, if it was rigged (it wasn’t) let’s say they decided to do it over 4 realz. Who do you think would own who… again. Forrest is a star, and I like to root 4 the underdog, but Silva totally outclasses him. Horrible matchup for Forrest. Honestly I don’t know how he became the champion for a short time in the 1st place. Oh yeah, cuz Rampage doesn’t know how to check a few leg kicks… then a few more… then a few more…
1 more. Lol, Darren… you are comparing Stephen Bonnar’s strikes to Anderson Silva’s?? Wow. Griffin was able to survive 3 rounds with Bonnar hiting him non-stop because Bonnar has no knockout power at all. When have you ever seen anyone knocked out by Bonnar’s love taps. He’s got heart, but there’s nothing behind his arms. Silva is a sniper. His strikes are feared for a reason. Noone is fearing Stephen Bonnar. Maybe you should go be a Strikeforce fanboy. The UFC will not miss your lame comments.