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Where’s WAMMA?

By Yael Grauer on Jul 14, 2009

I first learned about WAMMA last winter when I stopped by the gym Team Bison trained out of to do some fighter profiles. Head coach Mike Reilly (yeah, that’s Brett Rogers’ coach) told me there was an opportunity to rank female fighters. After a couple of phone calls and a long conversation about the female fight scene I was on WAMMA’s ranking committee.

I was really excited about the opportunity, because I’ve been frustrated about the state of women’s MMA where fighters are more likely to get inked because they’ve had photo shoots for Maxim or Playboy than because of their fighting ability. Although some of this is obviously due to marketing, I believed (and still do) that many promoters just don’t have the information they need. And how could they? The majority of female fights are not even on youtube, let alone televised. Even Sherdog can’t get their act together enough to update their site with all of the women’s fights. And sites that have attempted to list women’s fights are notoriously outdated and/or inaccurate.

While WAMMA’s male rankings were a media-only poll, there were so few experts on women’s MMA that it was an industry poll where fighters, promoters, trainers and managers could vote on a limited basis. Fighters were unable to vote for themselves or the weight class in which they most recently competed. We got a handful of men and women together to begin the ranking process. We began working out issues that immediately arose, such as how to rank women competing in more than one weight class (which is quite common) and how exactly to determine “inactivity” when it’s often quite difficult for even the best female fighters to get more than a fight a year. These kinks were slowly working themselves out as pollsters came up with voting panels of women in specific weight classes. Women that hadn’t fought since 2005 were eventually removed from the list while current fighters were added on the list. Women ranked below those they beat slowly rose up. Although the promised password-protected message forum for debating ranking-related issues never came to fruition, a public discussion occured on the fightergirls website in which several pollsters shared and explained their rankings and debate ensued. Josh Barnett, a member of the WAMMA ranking committee, was also a vocal critic. He believes that many pollsters don’t follow the sport well enough–in part because most are based in the U.S. “I think they’re too insular,” Barnett said. “In my opinion the competition (in the US) is not as stiff as their counterparts in Japan.”

In April, Mike Lynch resigned from WAMMA and Sam Caplan became interim replacement. John Morgan accepted an offer to serve as the interim chair of its fighter rankings committee. Shortly thereafter, Pat Militech and Sam Caplan left for undisclosed reasons. John Morgan soon followed suit, leaving the WAMMA women’s rankings in the hands of Dave Szady. Szady told us to send the rankings to Andrew Falzon, who sent us right back to Szady. Tim from FighterGirls stepped up to the plate, asking pollsters to send him the rankings. Szady told us that we could do this while WAMMA tries to formalize a Ranking Chairman, and said they hoped to have things settled within two weeks. While it’s only been ten days, Szady has not responded to requests for comment  and WAMMA has not even posted the latest rankings. They are, however, posted on the FighterGirls site.

I’d heard a lot of criticism of WAMMA for a long time. MMA Weekly’s Jeff Cain was one of the loudest voices speaking out against WAMMA. “Pat Miletich’s previous involvement was a conflict of interest considering he’s trained people the panel votes on and while I would never call Miletich’s character into question, the first title bout WAMMA put together was between Fedor and a Miletich trained fighter, Tim Sylvia.” Cain points out. He believes the rankings were not independent and had questionable motives, and that the voting panel was uneducated as well as biased (since most have sponsored and/or worked with fighters, some while on the panel). Cain pointed out many board members at the time of WAMMA’s conception were working for the now-defunct Elite XC. He has also called to question whether the rankings were truly independent. “I think they purposely rank fighters to coincide with who is fighting for the title instead of the other way around,” Cain says, pointing out that Arlovski was not ranked second by any independent rankings until he was lined up to fight Fedor. “The whole thing was designed, in my opinion,  to crown a champion that would rival the UFC titles and they found Fedor and ran with it,” Cain said.

As Josh Stein pointed out on these very pages, WAMMA’s belt (for male fighters) doesn’t mean very much when Affliction and UFC fighters don’t compete. But I was willing to put that criticism aside because it doesn’t hold much weight for the female fighters. The idea of legitimate women’s rankings is thrilling when female MMA world titles are notoriously absent from women’s MMA or die with the promotions they came with (such as Bodog).  Besides, how can one criticize promoters for only signing on the most popular fighters when they have such limited means of information? Cain has been quick to point out that rankings by trainers or promoters aren’t exactly independent. He also posed the question–Since when do ranking systems hand out belts? “This isn’t boxing,” Cain says.  ”There’s an agenda.”

Whatever the agenda for female WAMMA rankings may or may not have been, it appears to have all but fizzled and died. Perhaps the rankings will rise from the ash… but seeing as they haven’t even been posted on the WAMMA website, I’m not holding my breath.

Filed Under: MMA

Tags: female fighter rankings • fighter rankings • WAMMA

About the Author: Yael Grauer is an Op-Ed Columnist for MMA Opinion. She has worked as a photographer, journalist, editor, proofreader and English teacher. She also works as a women's MMA editor for the Savage Science. Yael trains in Brazilian jiu jitsu. Her website is http://yaewrites.com.

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  1. Matt C. says:
    July 14, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    I normally go on long-winded rants about my dislikes of WAMMA after every article I read about them but not this time. Keep this kind of stuff coming. Very nice article.

    Well one thing I do have a problem with is that Sam Caplan and Pat Miletich especially asked us to believe in WAMMA because they did. Now that those two have left I think they owe us an explanation on why they are no longer a part of what they were asking us to support and believe in.

  2. ironman says:
    July 14, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    They’re not going to go on the record and bash WAMMA any more than they already have. As much as I would love Pat (more than Sam) to come out and make a strong statement on the subject, he’s not going to. Oh well.

  3. curtis says:
    July 14, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    It was such a great idea, but for it to work they have to have everyone on board…

    Could you imagine if the BCS left out Ohio State, USC, and Penn State?

    What if the NCAA’s didn’t rank ACC teams?

    Just wouldn’t work…..

  4. Matt C. says:
    July 14, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    If Pat Miletich won’t go on the record and give an explanation can someone leak the details so that everyone can know the reason?

    I do agree the idea had great potential. However the one thing they focused on was their official rankings and from that trying to make money off their belts. To me there will always be credibility problems when subjective official rankings are being used to try and make matches. Just like this article pointed out with Arlovski moving up in the rankings when it was evident he was the next opponent for Fedor. I think trying to implement match making based on official rankings only leads to the necessity of manipulating the rankings to get them to say what makes the most sense financially.

  5. Yael Grauer says:
    July 15, 2009 at 12:07 am

    I would totally leak the details if I had them, but the sleiu of press releases and explanations are cryptic at best and only cite “disagreements with management” or something of that nature. I do know that part of the problem was financial; that although WAMMA had some serious cash from private investors they were extremely hesitant to spend any of it to built up the organization.

    I really could care less about the male rankings for WAMMA-rankings are a dime a dozen for men’s MMA… but I thought female rankings had some serious potential for helping legitimize women’s MMA. It’s a shame, really, that WAMMA seems to have all but fizzled before it really had a whole lot of impact.

  6. Sean says:
    July 21, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    The female rankings was a good idea, but could someone tell me why WAMMA hasnt updated the men’s rankings in over two months?

    Is it because of the fact that Machida, GSP and Brown all beat the #2 contenders and now dont know if they can declare a champ or not. This organization seems to just be lost.

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