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Satoshi Ishii: The Olympic Factor

By Josh Stein on Apr 20, 2009

Ishii is under exclusive contract with the UFC, but his debut has not yet been scheduled.

Ishii is under exclusive contract with the UFC, but his debut has not yet been scheduled.

When I speak optimistically about Satoshi Ishii, people sometimes look at me like I’m crazy.

There are a lot of problems with thinking that Ishii is capable of breaking into the top tier of MMA. The first is that his career hasn’t even started. The second is that he’s short, and reputed as a poor striker at this point in his training. The third is that judo has never really been demonstrated as an incredibly effective style with respect to transitioning to full contact (sure, there are a few exemplary judoka, if we choose to include Fedor, though I dispute that to some degree).

Now, it’s only fair to address these issues, because I think that Ishii’s future in the sport is worth defending, as I’ve been quick to criticize fighters who land on the big stage when they haven’t demonstrated that they’ve earned it. I didn’t like Lesnar coming to the UFC so quickly, and I don’t really approve of Ishii debuting in the UFC, but bringing him in after three or four solid victories would have been reasonable (which is the standard for the UFC bringing in athletes accomplished in other combat sports: see Pat Barry ). Ishii’s already under contract, though, so what done is done.

But Ishii is a more promising prospect to me than most athletes who attempt to bridge the gap, and it has nothing to do with him being an Olympic judoka. After Hidehiko Yoshida, we’ve seen what judo can do in MMA, we’ve also seen what it can’t, if the entire skillset isn’t pursued. What excites me about Ishii is his status as an Olympic gold medalist, his position as an athlete, and what that indicates about his willingness to learn, especially with what we’ve seen from Ishii as he’s started to study MMA.

Ishii wants to be a champion, and he’s got the work ethic .

Every great instructor has a story about an athlete that came into their academy from another field with a totally different skillset, but he had that willingness to learn and the sense of discipline that comes from being an elite athlete. All of the elite athletes in the sport, like Brock Lesnar (and Kevin Randleman, and Mark Coleman, and Mark Kerr, if we’re to use some older names) have that sense of discipline and that athleticism, but not all of them have the desire to expand their skillset, and so they fall into one dimensionalism. That’s not how Lesnar is, but that’s a path he may end up going down.

Ishii isn’t doing that, and that’s what makes him so endearing to me. Randy Couture is one of those fighters who came in with that athletic discipline and that willingness to learn. He was an elite wrestler who showed that willingness to learn boxing and jiu-jitsu. He developed the submission game that Mark Coleman, his predecessor, had always failed to develop, and the boxing that Mark Kerr had never cultivated.

My answer to those who say that Ishii’s striking sucks: Of course it does. The guy has never done any striking before. But he’s working with Lyoto Machida and focussing on developing that part of his game. A guy who’s an elite level athlete, who has that kind of discipline, is going to have striking skills after six months to a year of training. He won’t be starching people, but he’ll be mildly ellusive and he’ll be able to string together a decent combination.

His jiu-jitsu game is already solid. He has a brownbelt in BJJ, not to mention the additional, open style guard that judoka often develop. If he entered the UFC tomorrow, he’d be the most dominant grappler they have. The question is whether he can integrate strikes and use his short stocky physique to pass the guard and deliver a Monson-esque groundnpound with his short limbs.

I’m not going to call my shot before the ball is thrown. I’m not Babe Ruth.

I want to see how Ishii does, but I think that the potential, whether people like his striking or not, is there, as is his athleticism, and it’s definitely worth acknowledging that this young, talented athlete may have a future in the heavyweight division.

NOTE: The great athletes that have debuted in the UFC generally include Randy Couture and B.J. Penn (a world champion in jiu-jitsu, who has displayed that desire to learn, even if he hasn’t demonstrated the conditioning), so there is a historical precedent for Ishii’s debut, which is still unscheduled. However, the UFC is in a different place now, as it traffics in only the most elite athletes in the sport, and requires a demonstration of ability in full contact, no holds barred style fighting, which we don’t have from Ishii. As much as I wish Ishii were fighting somewhere else, he’s not, and I’ve resigned myself to that.

EDIT: This article might lead one to believe that Ishii has signed with the UFC (because it says so). This is not true. Ishii has entered a contract with Dream, and the author was wrong initially.

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Tags: Satoshi Ishii • UFC

About the Author: Joshua Stein is a writer and editor for MMA Opinion. He has worked as a photographer and journalist and has a number of print journalism credits. He also works as a moderator for MMAForum.com and a grappling columnist (covering judo, collegiate wrestling, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and submission grappling) for profighting-fans.com.

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  1. Coyote Mexican says:
    April 20, 2009 at 12:59 am

    Ishii is not in current contract with the UFC, inform better man¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

    In his last apparence to the public he was wearing a T-shirt of affliction.

  2. ironman says:
    April 20, 2009 at 1:38 am

    Mr. Mexican, he appeared at Sengoku 7 wearing a UFC t-shirt. That’s not the evidence I’d cite as far as suggesting that he’s signed a contract with the UFC.

    I am mistaken, though, and he’s signed with DREAM and is expected to appear soon.

  3. Juno says:
    April 20, 2009 at 3:00 am

    What happened was he verbally agreed to fight with feg/dream late last year but backed out because of his desire to fight for the ufc. Then I believe mmaweekly reported he had in fact signed with the ufc. But what it was that he had signed a contract for exclusive negotiations with the ufc, for like a month or something. He never actually signed with them to fight, just to negotiate. But I don’t think mmaweekly ever retracted or updated on the story leaving a lot of people thinking he’d officially signed with the ufc, which right now is not true. He is still very much a free agent to my knowledge.

  4. Juno says:
    April 20, 2009 at 3:09 am

    Also I’m not sure about him being a brown belt in bjj either. I think that was a mistranslation or something by someone. I think what was said that because he’s a black belt in judo means HE’D BE a brown belt in bjj skillwise, then people saw that and thought he was an actually brown belt in bjj.I don’t think he’s ever had a bjj lesson in his life. They were just comparing his judo skills to what his bjj SHOULD BE.

  5. VEe says:
    April 20, 2009 at 8:59 am

    I recall he was training with Lyoto Machida. Machida advised him to fight in Japan for a few fights before enterting the UFC. Smart move.

  6. ironman says:
    April 20, 2009 at 9:34 am

    Juno, that may very well be the case with his signing. There are a bunch of different reports which all say different things, none of which is particularly accurate. (Vee, if that’s the case, then it is a smart move)

  7. Coyote Mexican says:
    April 20, 2009 at 10:33 am

    Where is the Source of he is in contract with DREAM? The last year they say that for NYE and Ishii turn down the contract, no?

    Good article, sorry for look a little angry¡¡¡ is just my bad english Joshua¡¡¡

  8. Matt C. says:
    April 20, 2009 at 11:57 am

    I don’t know exactly why but I can’t wait to see what Ishii can do. I totally agree about the willingness to learn theory. From everything I have read Ishii wants to be great and I think the evidence supports that. He wouldn’t bother going to train with all the different people he has went to train with if he wasn’t serious about learning.

    I just hope DREAM or where he fights first doesn’t throw him directly into the deep end. I want to see him get a chance to get his feet wet against some lighter competition first. That way he can figure out what he needs to work on before facing top-tier competition.

  9. ironman says:
    April 20, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    Matt, I’m right there with you. I hope he fights a can in his debut so we can get a look at his skills, and then give him an opportunity to develop.

    When I first hear he was going to train with ATT, my reaction was “wow, this is a guy who really wants to learn the sport.” He left his comfort zone and is learning about the sport with guys who can really teach him, and I hope he does well.

  10. ironman says:
    April 20, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    No worries Coyote. For some reason I remembered the negotiations with the UFC panning out better.

    I’ve seen a piece from mmamania saying that he signed with FEG. http://mmamania.com/2008/10/29/olympic-judo-gold-medalist-satoshi-ishii-signs-with-feg/ Given the date, I’m thinking he’s a free agent. Strikeforce, maybe?

  11. Juno says:
    April 20, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    Take a look at this. http://mmamania.com/2008/12/17/olympic-judo-gold-medalist-satoshi-ishi-headed-for-american-top-team/

  12. ironman says:
    April 20, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Yeah, I saw that. That was part of my assumption that he signed with FEG (since it says so in the piece). I posted the article they linked back to above.

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