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	<title>Comments on: A Feigned Outcry Across the Pacific</title>
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		<title>By: Josh Stein</title>
		<link>http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/12/18/a-feigned-outcry-across-the-pacific/comment-page-1/#comment-3794</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not talking about the Medical associations. The medical associations want both removed. The writers just want to get rid of MMA.

The Medical association is consistent, and while I disagree with the Medical association, that&#039;s not my argument. It&#039;s the writers that are being inconsistent.

If you&#039;re going to talk about what the Medical Association wants to ban, make sure you add that they want to ban boxing. It seems important, at least to me, that that they have a hard line stance against any striking based combat sport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not talking about the Medical associations. The medical associations want both removed. The writers just want to get rid of MMA.</p>
<p>The Medical association is consistent, and while I disagree with the Medical association, that&#8217;s not my argument. It&#8217;s the writers that are being inconsistent.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to talk about what the Medical Association wants to ban, make sure you add that they want to ban boxing. It seems important, at least to me, that that they have a hard line stance against any striking based combat sport.</p>
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		<title>By: D.Capitated</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.Capitated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I know how medical associations feel about boxing. (I also know how they feel about football, but that’s an entirely different conversation) The point is that with the elimination of the standing 8 count, MMA is far safer. To claim that MMA should be eliminated for medical reasons, while boxing continues to be sanctioned, is completely absurd. That was the point.&lt;/i&gt;

How is it absurd? They want both banned for the same reasons. MMA and training for MMA inargurably causes the same sort of brain injuries, though to a lesser degree. They can&#039;t do anything about boxing in spite of the medical community pushing for its banshment now for a 7th decade. This is a bit like saying that because the American Lung Association pushed hard for the elimination of smoking it makes a potential interest in eliminating dirty car exaust absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I know how medical associations feel about boxing. (I also know how they feel about football, but that’s an entirely different conversation) The point is that with the elimination of the standing 8 count, MMA is far safer. To claim that MMA should be eliminated for medical reasons, while boxing continues to be sanctioned, is completely absurd. That was the point.</i></p>
<p>How is it absurd? They want both banned for the same reasons. MMA and training for MMA inargurably causes the same sort of brain injuries, though to a lesser degree. They can&#8217;t do anything about boxing in spite of the medical community pushing for its banshment now for a 7th decade. This is a bit like saying that because the American Lung Association pushed hard for the elimination of smoking it makes a potential interest in eliminating dirty car exaust absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Menegus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Menegus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 20:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s giving with the left hand, but taking with the right:

The oxygen deprivation involved in mountain hiking&#039;s dangerous over the long term. Soccer players have legs like someone who owed the mafia money after their retirement, cyclists have horrendous accidents all the time &amp; football players are encouraged to be bigger, stronger, faster &amp; run into another guy at full pace without protection all the time (just see how many kids get injured playing it every week, not even going to start with the drugged-up adults who can push through the pain)- yet mixed martial arts (that&#039;s right, not cage fighting) is horrible? Is it just me that sees the ridiculousness in all of this? I&#039;d rather not bash boxing, because I&#039;m a fan of that too, but the point is we have consenting, well-trained &amp; prepared competitors (not hateful opponents), who pass all appropriate medical checks &amp; compete in a sport they enjoy, no different to soccer, rugby, boxing or any olympic event.

I&#039;m not going to bother going into how incredibly subjective &amp; sensationalised FOX is, or how the AMA will approve many dangerous toxins, under the pretense of &quot;vaccinations&quot; or &quot;medicine&quot;, but I will say that if you are going to allow such &quot;mainstream&quot; sports to continue despite the known risks, I see no reason as to the abolition of Mixed Martial Arts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s giving with the left hand, but taking with the right:</p>
<p>The oxygen deprivation involved in mountain hiking&#8217;s dangerous over the long term. Soccer players have legs like someone who owed the mafia money after their retirement, cyclists have horrendous accidents all the time &amp; football players are encouraged to be bigger, stronger, faster &amp; run into another guy at full pace without protection all the time (just see how many kids get injured playing it every week, not even going to start with the drugged-up adults who can push through the pain)- yet mixed martial arts (that&#8217;s right, not cage fighting) is horrible? Is it just me that sees the ridiculousness in all of this? I&#8217;d rather not bash boxing, because I&#8217;m a fan of that too, but the point is we have consenting, well-trained &amp; prepared competitors (not hateful opponents), who pass all appropriate medical checks &amp; compete in a sport they enjoy, no different to soccer, rugby, boxing or any olympic event.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to bother going into how incredibly subjective &amp; sensationalised FOX is, or how the AMA will approve many dangerous toxins, under the pretense of &#8220;vaccinations&#8221; or &#8220;medicine&#8221;, but I will say that if you are going to allow such &#8220;mainstream&#8221; sports to continue despite the known risks, I see no reason as to the abolition of Mixed Martial Arts.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Stein</title>
		<link>http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/12/18/a-feigned-outcry-across-the-pacific/comment-page-1/#comment-3746</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know how medical associations feel about boxing. (I also know how they feel about football, but that&#039;s an entirely different conversation) The point is that with the elimination of the standing 8 count, MMA is far safer. To claim that MMA should be eliminated for medical reasons, while boxing continues to be sanctioned, is completely absurd. That was the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know how medical associations feel about boxing. (I also know how they feel about football, but that&#8217;s an entirely different conversation) The point is that with the elimination of the standing 8 count, MMA is far safer. To claim that MMA should be eliminated for medical reasons, while boxing continues to be sanctioned, is completely absurd. That was the point.</p>
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		<title>By: D.Capitated</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.Capitated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most every medical association on the planet supports the elimination of boxing, just so you know. Acting as if they don&#039;t because its inconvenient to the point you&#039;re putting out there doesn&#039;t make it so.

Additionally, in the case of Australian MMA, I&#039;d have a tough time swallowing it too given how the sport has been treated. The biggest Aussie MMA star was Tony Bonello, a guy who it is assumed has won mostly thrown fights, and his signature wins are against Dan Severn (see prior statement) and an old and ricidulously undersized kickboxer/boxer John Wayne Parr, a fight which was probably illegal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most every medical association on the planet supports the elimination of boxing, just so you know. Acting as if they don&#8217;t because its inconvenient to the point you&#8217;re putting out there doesn&#8217;t make it so.</p>
<p>Additionally, in the case of Australian MMA, I&#8217;d have a tough time swallowing it too given how the sport has been treated. The biggest Aussie MMA star was Tony Bonello, a guy who it is assumed has won mostly thrown fights, and his signature wins are against Dan Severn (see prior statement) and an old and ricidulously undersized kickboxer/boxer John Wayne Parr, a fight which was probably illegal.</p>
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