Comments on: Fedor vs. Silva: Bad Ideas

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 05:38:07 +0000

It seems UFC glorifies its fighters. They think they have the best fighters in the world. The fact is that they don’t have the best fighters, only some of them. Silva only fights a narrow weight range and limited amount of good fighters in the UFC. I think when Silva’s contract is up he needs to fight somewhere else outside of UFC and be more selective about the fighters he is going up against. It seems to me that the UFC is wearing him out on okay fighters instead of searching for better fighters for him outside of UFC or moving him up to HW. Fedor is P4P king because people leave UFC and other organizations to fight him. Fedor fights a wide weight range of HW’s and always ends up winning the fights in dominating fashion by submitting them or G4Pn’ the other fighter. Since Fedor has never technically lost, I do believe in my opinion he is the undisputed P4P champion.

By: Josh Stein

Josh Stein — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:13:19 +0000

I stick to your definition of pound-for-pound, but I tend to grant that crown to KID Yamamoto, because he’s fought a lot of tougher, bigger guys and kicked the crap out of them.

It really depends on who Brock Lesnar beats. If he beats the winner of Nogueira/Mir and then fights the loser of that fight and Gonzaga, no, I won’t consider him a top p4p fighter. He needs to fight Fedor, at least, but you already knew I was going to say that.

By: Vee

Vee — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:45:37 +0000

Josh, I definitely agree.

I just still think the whole pound for pound title is seriously being misconstrued and thrown around without regard to its origin. MMA doesn’t have many fighters that are going up in more than 1 weight class and dominating most contenders. I’m specifically referring to fighters like Pernell Whitaker, who went up in weight and bested natually bigger opponents.

Penn, Henderson, and Couture acutally won championships in different weight classes. Henderson and Couture is not even considered “P4P” and Penn’s inability to dominate in the welterweight category automatically rules him out.
GSP is welterweight, yes he’s dominating the class but ‘P4P’. He hasn’t faced Alves yet and only successfully defended his title once.
Anderson Silva is currently dominating the MW division but there are plenty of contenders that would provide interesting match-ups. At 205lbs, he’s been successful but he hasn’t faced the top tier of the Light Heavyweight category.

My question to all the MMA pundits, what does P4P means to you? I think its really bullsh*t right now, especially in MMA because its really being used from a boxing framework. The fact that Dana White said Lyoto Machida may be the next P4P king when Anderson Silva retires goes to show you that it really has no meaning. Or I’ll offer that the original meaning has long since lost its meaning now that everybody is redefining the phrase to suit their own purposes or marketing agendas.

I guess if Brock Lesnar continues to be victorious throughout mid 2010, he will be considered the P4P king? Yes, no or does a super-heavyweight fighter really qualifies?