Comments on: Is it Time to End The Ultimate Fighter? http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/12/04/is-it-time-to-end-the-ultimate-fighter/ MMA Opinion and Cheap MMA Gear Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:45:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Angelo http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/12/04/is-it-time-to-end-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-3491 Angelo Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:42:21 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/?p=1470#comment-3491 I personally think the show should continue because it's the best way to bring up talent and basically have a minor leagues in which the fans can be exposed to the newcomers before they ever show up. However, I propose the format should change and I agree, it should focus on the training. My girlfriend was watching the last episode and she said he had no idea what was going on. She didn't know how a D'arce choke worked or how to get out of it. I think during the training sessions there should be some kind of segment where they break down techniques of the various martial arts studied. That way people watching the show will not only be exposed to the fighters, but also to the art of MMA. I personally think the show should continue because it’s the best way to bring up talent and basically have a minor leagues in which the fans can be exposed to the newcomers before they ever show up.

However, I propose the format should change and I agree, it should focus on the training. My girlfriend was watching the last episode and she said he had no idea what was going on. She didn’t know how a D’arce choke worked or how to get out of it. I think during the training sessions there should be some kind of segment where they break down techniques of the various martial arts studied. That way people watching the show will not only be exposed to the fighters, but also to the art of MMA.

]]> By: Curtis http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/12/04/is-it-time-to-end-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-3490 Curtis Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:28:13 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/?p=1470#comment-3490 Shrum i agree! he shoulda been gone the first time, not the 2nd...3rd.... Shrum i agree! he shoulda been gone the first time, not the 2nd…3rd….

]]> By: Curtis http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/12/04/is-it-time-to-end-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-3489 Curtis Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:20:35 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/?p=1470#comment-3489 I doubt it, a young MJ didn't even make his high school team first time up.... There are tons of positive young athletes check out Florida State DB Myron Rolle. Junkie is far from a young Chris Leben. Do you think his tenure in the UFC will be as long as Chris' has been? I doubt it, a young MJ didn’t even make his high school team first time up…. There are tons of positive young athletes check out Florida State DB Myron Rolle.

Junkie is far from a young Chris Leben. Do you think his tenure in the UFC will be as long as Chris’ has been?

]]> By: Shrum http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/12/04/is-it-time-to-end-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-3488 Shrum Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:17:12 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/?p=1470#comment-3488 I could not agree more. I can't understand how that guy is still on the show. When does it stop. Is this WWE or MMA? I could not agree more. I can’t understand how that guy is still on the show. When does it stop. Is this WWE or MMA?

]]> By: Vee http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/12/04/is-it-time-to-end-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-3487 Vee Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:38:24 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/?p=1470#comment-3487 War Machine . . . hey, he definitely performed in the cage! Junie is just the talking point. Immature-young fighter-Leben 2.0 with little bit more skills but more personal problems and mental baggage. He's the car wreck that every body pauses to see and then they move on. I think the producers of the show (including Dana) wants the show to be more compelling for the not-so-fanatical fight fans. Josh, Better fights, you can't control unless you're Vince McMahon or the ref who decided to stand up Rothwell against Arvolski. Respectable fighters? Respectable young athletes. Not happening. A young Michael Jordan not only berated teammates, he also smack 1 or 2 in his time. I'll bet you .25* cents Maghales lack of striking game beats Bader's lay-n-pray skills. <i>(*obviously I don't gamble, especially in the fight game)</i> War Machine . . . hey, he definitely performed in the cage!
Junie is just the talking point. Immature-young fighter-Leben 2.0 with little bit more skills but more personal problems and mental baggage. He’s the car wreck that every body pauses to see and then they move on. I think the producers of the show (including Dana) wants the show to be more compelling for the not-so-fanatical fight fans.

Josh,
Better fights, you can’t control unless you’re Vince McMahon or the ref who decided to stand up Rothwell against Arvolski. Respectable fighters? Respectable young athletes. Not happening. A young Michael Jordan not only berated teammates, he also smack 1 or 2 in his time.

I’ll bet you .25* cents Maghales lack of striking game beats Bader’s lay-n-pray skills. (*obviously I don’t gamble, especially in the fight game)

]]> By: Curtis http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/12/04/is-it-time-to-end-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-3486 Curtis Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:46:14 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/?p=1470#comment-3486 Well said... It was def overhyped! As for Junie, I don't know him personally and can only go by what I have seen on the show. He has the physical tools to be a good fighter, but I currently believe he is missing the mental tools. Sometimes that can be learned through experience and others it can't... I hope he proves me wrong and has a long succesful career in the UFC, but wouldn it surprise anyone if he had similar headlines in the future as "War Machine"? Well said…

It was def overhyped! As for Junie, I don’t know him personally and can only go by what I have seen on the show. He has the physical tools to be a good fighter, but I currently believe he is missing the mental tools. Sometimes that can be learned through experience and others it can’t…

I hope he proves me wrong and has a long succesful career in the UFC, but wouldn it surprise anyone if he had similar headlines in the future as “War Machine”?

]]> By: Josh Stein http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/12/04/is-it-time-to-end-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-3485 Josh Stein Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:43:11 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/?p=1470#comment-3485 I was still not impressed with Vinny. All he reminded us is that his jiu-jitsu is good and he can't do anything standing up. Bader's gameplan is so obvious that if Maghales can't learn some basic striking, he's going to be done. As for Junie, I don't think the problem with him as that he was on the show, it was that he wasn't removed from the show as soon as he started acting like an idiot. Why that is we will never know. As for what needs to be done, I don't want a major overhaul, I just want interesting fights and good, respectful fighters. If Junie had been good I wouldn't be so frustrated, but he sucked in both of his performances over the course of the show, and that's bad for TUF, because I don't tune in to watch a bad fight. I was still not impressed with Vinny. All he reminded us is that his jiu-jitsu is good and he can’t do anything standing up. Bader’s gameplan is so obvious that if Maghales can’t learn some basic striking, he’s going to be done.

As for Junie, I don’t think the problem with him as that he was on the show, it was that he wasn’t removed from the show as soon as he started acting like an idiot. Why that is we will never know.

As for what needs to be done, I don’t want a major overhaul, I just want interesting fights and good, respectful fighters. If Junie had been good I wouldn’t be so frustrated, but he sucked in both of his performances over the course of the show, and that’s bad for TUF, because I don’t tune in to watch a bad fight.

]]> By: Vee http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/12/04/is-it-time-to-end-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-3482 Vee Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:12:45 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/?p=1470#comment-3482 Evans "showboating" was by far not really controversial just blown out of proportion. It was really how one person percieved the event. When commentators decided to bring it up during the aftermath of the Liddell match-up, I came to the conclusion that the issue will continue to be retread again and again. It's reality T.V, the producers of the show need something to tell a story, create drama, tension in order to keep viewers engaged. With that said, let's talk Junie Brown. In the end who knows what was encourage behind the camera. It is usually interesting when many people speak about TUF'ers after the show, they usually do not have a problem with them. Junie is currently training at Xtreme Couture with Shawn Tompkins and he has nothing but good words about the fighter. Another note, while I would like to see more of the positive aspects of the sports, training method, preparation and guest fighter appearances . . . positive doesn't sell as well as the negative aspects. The show should continue. Dana and the show producers have been steadily tweaking the show after several seasons. I really don't think Spike TV is expecting the ratings the increase after every season, after all it has to level out at some point. The show works well as a great marketing tool for the UFC brand. It promotes the heck out of new upcoming fighters and creates legends if they're successful. And I'm sure Spike TV is not suffering, they don't have too many original programming but TUF is still going while FOX's The Contender and De La Hoya's show is not around. Versus does have TAPOUT's show and the Contender and Muay Thai(Contender), but Spike's TUF is still a good product. The first two episode usually promises to be good because you get to see the initial elmination fights. I can do without the frat-boy antics but it is television. Personally some times, I wait till the last half-hour to catch the training and the fights. You can always tell if the fight goes on for 3-rounds if it starts really early. Bader . . . :-( Evans “showboating” was by far not really controversial just blown out of proportion. It was really how one person percieved the event. When commentators decided to bring it up during the aftermath of the Liddell match-up, I came to the conclusion that the issue will continue to be retread again and again. It’s reality T.V, the producers of the show need something to tell a story, create drama, tension in order to keep viewers engaged.

With that said, let’s talk Junie Brown. In the end who knows what was encourage behind the camera. It is usually interesting when many people speak about TUF’ers after the show, they usually do not have a problem with them. Junie is currently training at Xtreme Couture with Shawn Tompkins and he has nothing but good words about the fighter.

Another note, while I would like to see more of the positive aspects of the sports, training method, preparation and guest fighter appearances . . . positive doesn’t sell as well as the negative aspects.

The show should continue. Dana and the show producers have been steadily tweaking the show after several seasons. I really don’t think Spike TV is expecting the ratings the increase after every season, after all it has to level out at some point. The show works well as a great marketing tool for the UFC brand. It promotes the heck out of new upcoming fighters and creates legends if they’re successful. And I’m sure Spike TV is not suffering, they don’t have too many original programming but TUF is still going while FOX’s The Contender and De La Hoya’s show is not around. Versus does have TAPOUT’s show and the Contender and Muay Thai(Contender), but Spike’s TUF is still a good product. The first two episode usually promises to be good because you get to see the initial elmination fights.

I can do without the frat-boy antics but it is television. Personally some times, I wait till the last half-hour to catch the training and the fights. You can always tell if the fight goes on for 3-rounds if it starts really early.

Bader . . . :-(

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