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		<title>By: Josh Stein</title>
		<link>http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/08/23/the-man-who-should-fight-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-2205</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy, I agree with pretty much everything you said.

While I don&#039;t find the 205 pound division to be the most interesting (I&#039;m a huge fan of their 155 pound division), I do find that when I talk with my friends, who are casual MMA fans, that seems to be where most of the conversations happen.

They could&#039;ve lured Fedor from Pride a long time ago, probably before he was a huge phenomenon in Russia, and they probably could have gotten that exclusive contract. (I doubt that his management would have been as hard about it if he wasn&#039;t so dominant or if his rank wasn&#039;t so undisputed) The real problem (and this is what people seem to forget) is that the UFC didn&#039;t have the guys Fedor wanted to compete with. I mean, they had Sylvia and Arlovski, but Nogueira and CroCop made him much more marketable.

So, yes, for the right amount of money (not necessarily the most, but more than what Pride paid), the UFC could have had Fedor. Would he be the Fedor we know today? Probably not.

In fact, I don&#039;t think he would be ranked #1 had he not fought in Pride, because people would care so much about Nogueira and CroCop and one of them (probably Nog) would have emerged as the #1 ranked fighter without losses to Fedor.

Of course, this is all speculation.

B.W., you admit in your comment that Fedor&#039;s management doesn&#039;t care primarily about money. They care about his independence and about his ability to keep his Russian fanbase happy.

Tim is good for a few more fighters, and I do see a fight with Ricco Rodriguez or Hidehiko Yoshida or (my personal choice) Mark Hunt in his near future, all of which would be great matchups for Affliction to push a new, upcoming fighter against Sylvia and offer us hardcore fans a good fight.

Lesnar may not care about the money, but my problem with him isn&#039;t with his motivations for competing in the sport. My problem is that the guy doesn&#039;t know how to train for this sport, and he doesn&#039;t seem to give a rat&#039;s ass about learning.

The UFC didn&#039;t even have to contend with EXC or Affliction or Bodog or anyone for these contracts 12 months ago, and they still let their division go all to hell. There are plenty of free market contracts that the UFC is ignoring. Why? Because they don&#039;t care about the division, and that&#039;s a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy, I agree with pretty much everything you said.</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t find the 205 pound division to be the most interesting (I&#8217;m a huge fan of their 155 pound division), I do find that when I talk with my friends, who are casual MMA fans, that seems to be where most of the conversations happen.</p>
<p>They could&#8217;ve lured Fedor from Pride a long time ago, probably before he was a huge phenomenon in Russia, and they probably could have gotten that exclusive contract. (I doubt that his management would have been as hard about it if he wasn&#8217;t so dominant or if his rank wasn&#8217;t so undisputed) The real problem (and this is what people seem to forget) is that the UFC didn&#8217;t have the guys Fedor wanted to compete with. I mean, they had Sylvia and Arlovski, but Nogueira and CroCop made him much more marketable.</p>
<p>So, yes, for the right amount of money (not necessarily the most, but more than what Pride paid), the UFC could have had Fedor. Would he be the Fedor we know today? Probably not.</p>
<p>In fact, I don&#8217;t think he would be ranked #1 had he not fought in Pride, because people would care so much about Nogueira and CroCop and one of them (probably Nog) would have emerged as the #1 ranked fighter without losses to Fedor.</p>
<p>Of course, this is all speculation.</p>
<p>B.W., you admit in your comment that Fedor&#8217;s management doesn&#8217;t care primarily about money. They care about his independence and about his ability to keep his Russian fanbase happy.</p>
<p>Tim is good for a few more fighters, and I do see a fight with Ricco Rodriguez or Hidehiko Yoshida or (my personal choice) Mark Hunt in his near future, all of which would be great matchups for Affliction to push a new, upcoming fighter against Sylvia and offer us hardcore fans a good fight.</p>
<p>Lesnar may not care about the money, but my problem with him isn&#8217;t with his motivations for competing in the sport. My problem is that the guy doesn&#8217;t know how to train for this sport, and he doesn&#8217;t seem to give a rat&#8217;s ass about learning.</p>
<p>The UFC didn&#8217;t even have to contend with EXC or Affliction or Bodog or anyone for these contracts 12 months ago, and they still let their division go all to hell. There are plenty of free market contracts that the UFC is ignoring. Why? Because they don&#8217;t care about the division, and that&#8217;s a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: b.w.</title>
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		<dc:creator>b.w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMY. you dont know fedors management. vlad finklstein and the boys only care about one thing and thats money. of course their taking the japan fight for  a big easy paycheck. the ufc HAD all (almost) the best hws when trying to sign fedor. they randy,cro-cop, big-nog, arlovski, sylvia, and all the current hws they have now cept the young guys. Fedor and his management WOULD NOT sign an exclusive contract and the ufc wont sign anybody, any fighter, no matter who to a non-exclusive contract. i dont think fedor fears any fighter, but i do belive his managemnt is scared to death that he might get a loss on his vaunted undefeated record. dont worry once elitexc and affliction fold ( and believe me they will) the ufc will get back or sign the hws worth signing. i dont mean to sound so pro-ufc and anti-anyone else, but it is what it is. Affliction pretty much signed their own death warrent when they paid big tim 800k. they cant get tito now and have asked fighters to take a paycut since their 1rst show and most have refused. once you pay an athelete that much, they are always gonna want that much or more. if you dont like brock, you dont like him. im not gonna try and talk you into it, but you are very uneducated about him and his background and his desire. you think he is in mma only for the money? hell, he was the WWE&#039;S hw champ and made a hell of alot more money to fake fight than to do it for real. if he was only it for the money, why leave pro-wrestling. those guys make a ton of cash. i dont see the correlation to the ufc&#039;s hw division to pro boxings hw division. it&#039;s like apples and oranges. pro boxing doesnt have 1 single orginization like the ufc has. they have dozens!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMY. you dont know fedors management. vlad finklstein and the boys only care about one thing and thats money. of course their taking the japan fight for  a big easy paycheck. the ufc HAD all (almost) the best hws when trying to sign fedor. they randy,cro-cop, big-nog, arlovski, sylvia, and all the current hws they have now cept the young guys. Fedor and his management WOULD NOT sign an exclusive contract and the ufc wont sign anybody, any fighter, no matter who to a non-exclusive contract. i dont think fedor fears any fighter, but i do belive his managemnt is scared to death that he might get a loss on his vaunted undefeated record. dont worry once elitexc and affliction fold ( and believe me they will) the ufc will get back or sign the hws worth signing. i dont mean to sound so pro-ufc and anti-anyone else, but it is what it is. Affliction pretty much signed their own death warrent when they paid big tim 800k. they cant get tito now and have asked fighters to take a paycut since their 1rst show and most have refused. once you pay an athelete that much, they are always gonna want that much or more. if you dont like brock, you dont like him. im not gonna try and talk you into it, but you are very uneducated about him and his background and his desire. you think he is in mma only for the money? hell, he was the WWE&#8217;S hw champ and made a hell of alot more money to fake fight than to do it for real. if he was only it for the money, why leave pro-wrestling. those guys make a ton of cash. i dont see the correlation to the ufc&#8217;s hw division to pro boxings hw division. it&#8217;s like apples and oranges. pro boxing doesnt have 1 single orginization like the ufc has. they have dozens!</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Robinson</title>
		<link>http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/08/23/the-man-who-should-fight-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-2200</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ I agree, just like in boxing, before the UFC pissed away their heavyweight division it was pretty much their premiere division. And even today, with the downslide of the HW class, what&#039;s become the number featured division? Light Heavyweight. 

There&#039;s no two ways around it, it&#039;s just kinda inherent in the fight game. Which is why what Zuffa let happen to their heavyweight weight class is absolutely ridiculous. 

A good question that arises from that is if they had kept the best heavyweight competition, could they have potentially lured Fedor from Pride years ago and had his record run in their own promotion? They could&#039;ve potentially missed the biggest boat in the sport had they not had their heads up their asses for so long. IMO, its one of their biggest promotional blunders to date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ I agree, just like in boxing, before the UFC pissed away their heavyweight division it was pretty much their premiere division. And even today, with the downslide of the HW class, what&#8217;s become the number featured division? Light Heavyweight. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no two ways around it, it&#8217;s just kinda inherent in the fight game. Which is why what Zuffa let happen to their heavyweight weight class is absolutely ridiculous. </p>
<p>A good question that arises from that is if they had kept the best heavyweight competition, could they have potentially lured Fedor from Pride years ago and had his record run in their own promotion? They could&#8217;ve potentially missed the biggest boat in the sport had they not had their heads up their asses for so long. IMO, its one of their biggest promotional blunders to date.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Stein</title>
		<link>http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/08/23/the-man-who-should-fight-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-2198</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the UFC is stupid, but sometimes smart people do stupid things. And what the UFC has allowed to happen to their heavyweight division is stupid.

The overall quality of their organization suffers for not having a heavyweight division, and regardless of how they try to market their fighters, it gives other organizations a huge opportunity to upstage them when they don&#039;t have a solid heavyweight division. That&#039;s what we&#039;ve seen happen with Affliction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the UFC is stupid, but sometimes smart people do stupid things. And what the UFC has allowed to happen to their heavyweight division is stupid.</p>
<p>The overall quality of their organization suffers for not having a heavyweight division, and regardless of how they try to market their fighters, it gives other organizations a huge opportunity to upstage them when they don&#8217;t have a solid heavyweight division. That&#8217;s what we&#8217;ve seen happen with Affliction.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d think Fedor and his people would be smart enough to avoid a freak-show match themselves without Affliction&#039;s voice. I hate to say but maybe Fedor wants an gimme for a big paycheck whenever he can get it. 

And I hate to pile on but I haven&#039;t been impressed with Brock either. And I don&#039;t think he&#039;ll ever be a &quot;great&quot; in MMA. Mostly because he has no real desire for the sport, no real passion for it. He plain and simple got into it for the cash, so there&#039;s no motive for him aside from that. Which IMO, means he&#039;s only ever gonna do just enough to get paid. He could lay his way to a championship with his size, but that isn&#039;t gonna ever make him go down as a great. 

IMO, MMA skill wise I haven&#039;t seen anything impressive out of Brock so far. He&#039;s an impressive wrestler, he&#039;s an impressive size. But MMA skill wise he&#039;s nothing impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d think Fedor and his people would be smart enough to avoid a freak-show match themselves without Affliction&#8217;s voice. I hate to say but maybe Fedor wants an gimme for a big paycheck whenever he can get it. </p>
<p>And I hate to pile on but I haven&#8217;t been impressed with Brock either. And I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;ll ever be a &#8220;great&#8221; in MMA. Mostly because he has no real desire for the sport, no real passion for it. He plain and simple got into it for the cash, so there&#8217;s no motive for him aside from that. Which IMO, means he&#8217;s only ever gonna do just enough to get paid. He could lay his way to a championship with his size, but that isn&#8217;t gonna ever make him go down as a great. </p>
<p>IMO, MMA skill wise I haven&#8217;t seen anything impressive out of Brock so far. He&#8217;s an impressive wrestler, he&#8217;s an impressive size. But MMA skill wise he&#8217;s nothing impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: b.w.</title>
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		<dc:creator>b.w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont think the ufc is stupid. they decided to clean house at h.w. and rebuild at that division. they have been SMART enough to realize that the mma world doesnt revolve around the hw division. they lost randy,sylvia,tito,cro-cop,arlovski and the chance to sign fedor (for now) and have only gotten better by putting smaller fighters more in the spotlight like a.silva,gsp,penn and faber(still zuffa). you say that fedor is the best hw in the world and big nog is the only top 5 that the ufc has. fair enough. give it another year and we will see where things stand. good debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont think the ufc is stupid. they decided to clean house at h.w. and rebuild at that division. they have been SMART enough to realize that the mma world doesnt revolve around the hw division. they lost randy,sylvia,tito,cro-cop,arlovski and the chance to sign fedor (for now) and have only gotten better by putting smaller fighters more in the spotlight like a.silva,gsp,penn and faber(still zuffa). you say that fedor is the best hw in the world and big nog is the only top 5 that the ufc has. fair enough. give it another year and we will see where things stand. good debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you think so, and I agree that Fedor is the only real champ they have, but there will be others that are competitive, especially if they can get Gomi and Hansen on cards regularly.

I think Lesnar sucks, but I&#039;m not going to say he doesn&#039;t have potential.

The UFC has three prospects, all of whom are one style fighters (Carwin might be more than that, but it remains to be seen). I like Velasquez, and I&#039;ve talked to him and seen him train in San Jose. He&#039;s got a future, but he&#039;s not as good as any of the serious guys in the top ten.

It&#039;s not a matter of long term. There are plenty of great prospects on the open market, and the UFC is too stupid to sign them. That aside, if you look at the top five rankings, how many guys does the UFC have? I count 1. (Nog)

It&#039;s an embarrasment for an organization run like that to call themselves the best while they only have 1 top heavyweight. Boxing promoters do that and its stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you think so, and I agree that Fedor is the only real champ they have, but there will be others that are competitive, especially if they can get Gomi and Hansen on cards regularly.</p>
<p>I think Lesnar sucks, but I&#8217;m not going to say he doesn&#8217;t have potential.</p>
<p>The UFC has three prospects, all of whom are one style fighters (Carwin might be more than that, but it remains to be seen). I like Velasquez, and I&#8217;ve talked to him and seen him train in San Jose. He&#8217;s got a future, but he&#8217;s not as good as any of the serious guys in the top ten.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a matter of long term. There are plenty of great prospects on the open market, and the UFC is too stupid to sign them. That aside, if you look at the top five rankings, how many guys does the UFC have? I count 1. (Nog)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an embarrasment for an organization run like that to call themselves the best while they only have 1 top heavyweight. Boxing promoters do that and its stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: b.w.</title>
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		<dc:creator>b.w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you think lesnar sucks, then why do you name him as one of the possible fighters that could beat fedor once he ages. fedor is like 30 right. how much does he have to age before this happens. 45. as far as herring goes, he just beat kongo! the fight was close and could have easily been a draw, but still herring is not a can. you really think kongo and atonio hardonk can evolve into better fighters than what arlovski is now. the hw division is not as bad in the ufc as people proclaim. they have 3 great up and comers in brock, cain valsquez, and shane carwin. mix them with some pretty good veterns like kongo,big nog, werdum, gonzaga (the best 1 rnd fighter in the world) and its not so bad. who&#039;s better? certainly not elitexc. affliction only really has arlovski signed to anything longterm i belive. m1 has fedor. adreneline has sylvia and rothwell and isnt barnett still with world victory. if you combine all those orgs. they are better at hw than the ufc, but divide them and they will not add up to much.i hope that affliction stays around long enough to see a 3rd show and watch fedor fight the winner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you think lesnar sucks, then why do you name him as one of the possible fighters that could beat fedor once he ages. fedor is like 30 right. how much does he have to age before this happens. 45. as far as herring goes, he just beat kongo! the fight was close and could have easily been a draw, but still herring is not a can. you really think kongo and atonio hardonk can evolve into better fighters than what arlovski is now. the hw division is not as bad in the ufc as people proclaim. they have 3 great up and comers in brock, cain valsquez, and shane carwin. mix them with some pretty good veterns like kongo,big nog, werdum, gonzaga (the best 1 rnd fighter in the world) and its not so bad. who&#8217;s better? certainly not elitexc. affliction only really has arlovski signed to anything longterm i belive. m1 has fedor. adreneline has sylvia and rothwell and isnt barnett still with world victory. if you combine all those orgs. they are better at hw than the ufc, but divide them and they will not add up to much.i hope that affliction stays around long enough to see a 3rd show and watch fedor fight the winner!</p>
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		<title>By: b.w.</title>
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		<dc:creator>b.w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JOSH. scratch that what i said about wamma&#039;s actual rankings. i hadnt seen them in a while and just checked them out again. they have been revised and are quite good. they only have one recognized champ, fedor at hw. it will be interesting to see who they name as their champs in the other weight classes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JOSH. scratch that what i said about wamma&#8217;s actual rankings. i hadnt seen them in a while and just checked them out again. they have been revised and are quite good. they only have one recognized champ, fedor at hw. it will be interesting to see who they name as their champs in the other weight classes.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WAMMA is a joke? Because the UFC Heavyweight division is so full of great contenders, right. They don&#039;t have much in terms of other divisions, that&#039;s true. They&#039;ll get guys like Diaz and Noons and Shields and Lawler and Lindland and the rest of the disenfranchised world. You don&#039;t think that Fedor is the undisputed champ. The guy beat the reigning UFC champ 3 times.

You think that Herring was a top 15 fight? He was two of his last 4, with one of those losses coming to a nobody, Jake O&#039;Brien. He was not a top 15 fighter.

We&#039;ll see how Lesnar does against Kongo. It&#039;s supposed to be a perfect matchup for Lesnar, but I think there are alot of people underestimating the improvement in Kongo&#039;s groundgame. We&#039;ll see how that goes.

I do agree that he&#039;s better than Kimbo. I won&#039;t argue with that. But they both suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WAMMA is a joke? Because the UFC Heavyweight division is so full of great contenders, right. They don&#8217;t have much in terms of other divisions, that&#8217;s true. They&#8217;ll get guys like Diaz and Noons and Shields and Lawler and Lindland and the rest of the disenfranchised world. You don&#8217;t think that Fedor is the undisputed champ. The guy beat the reigning UFC champ 3 times.</p>
<p>You think that Herring was a top 15 fight? He was two of his last 4, with one of those losses coming to a nobody, Jake O&#8217;Brien. He was not a top 15 fighter.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see how Lesnar does against Kongo. It&#8217;s supposed to be a perfect matchup for Lesnar, but I think there are alot of people underestimating the improvement in Kongo&#8217;s groundgame. We&#8217;ll see how that goes.</p>
<p>I do agree that he&#8217;s better than Kimbo. I won&#8217;t argue with that. But they both suck.</p>
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