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The Truth about Brock Lesnar

By Josh Stein on Aug 11, 2008

Brock Lesnar is the enforcer in the UFC heavyweight division. He’s a physical monster, and I don’t think that anyone is going to deny that he is, physically speaking, a specimen that we haven’t seen in a long time.

That said, when I opened my browser and went to open Sherdog to see what laughable title I could find and I saw a piece centered on Lesnar’s future in the heavyweight division I was confused. I don’t expect genius from Sherdog, but the way that they are looking at Lesnar seems a step beyond absurd.

I will say that his win over Heath Herring was dominant, but so was Jake O’Brien’s, and nobody (except Jake himself) called O’Brien the future of the heavyweight division. As far as I’m concerned, the fact that Lesnar couldn’t finish only proves further that he’s got a long way to go before he can be dubbed a top ten fighter.

The fact that the article lists “Key Win” as one of the stats left me to wonder, what has Lesnar got as his Key Win? The decision win over Herring? It was a big step for him in legitimizing himself, but it isn’t going to hurtle him into the top ten. Let’s face it, beating Herring by decision is not knocking out a Nogueira brother, and Lesnar’s ranking isn’t going to shoot up the way Sokoudjou’s did.

Still, I thought it was interesting to see the way Tomas Rios reflected on the upcoming matchups for Lesnar, some of my thoughts on the matchup Rios came up with:

Cain Velasquez (4-0-0) vs Brock Lesnar (2-1-0)

I’m biased, because I’ve seen Cain train, and I know alot about the way that he works his game. His ability to utilize the whizzer against a wrestler like O’Brien is impressive, but I doubt he can do anything against a bigger, stronger Lesnar, especially given that Lesnar is a national champion. Cain’s jiu-jitsu, if he does hit his back, is so-so, but I don’t think that he’s going to get lucky and catch a Frank Mir. He doesn’t have Frank’s skill off of his back. I think Lesnar could take this one by Unanimous Decision, but I don’t think it will happen, as the UFC tries to push their two up-and-comers, and likes the future of both of these guys, especially as Cain remains undefeated.

Gabriel Gonzaga (9-3-0) vs Brock Lesnar (2-1-0)

Gabriel Gonzaga is not just a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu blackbelt, he’s a world champion blackbelt, and that means something. It means that Gonzaga is going to be better than Frank Mir on the ground. Gonzaga’s guard game is substantial, and I’m not convinced (because Brock’s only UFC win is against a fighter who hasn’t submitted an opponent since choking out Giant Silva in 2003) that Lesnar is sufficiently prepared to fight a serious Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu fighter. There are alot of ways for Brock to lose this fight. Gonzaga has serious knockout power and dangerous submission skills. I can’t, in good conscious, call Brock the winner of a fight that he could only ever win with the help of the judges. Gonzaga gives Lesnar the chance to pick his poison, either knocking Lesnar out on the feet or putting him away with a technical submission display.

Fabricio Werdum (11-3-1) vs Brock Lesnar (2-1-0)

Werdum’s jiu-jitsu is a step beyond Gonzaga’s. His submission skills may not be enough to finish a fighter like Napao, though I think he can, but they are certainly sufficient, should he end up on his back, to finish a fighter like Lesnar, and his submission game is tailor made for Lesnar. The chance that Werdum could break down Lesnar in the guard are good, but even if he doesn’t, he can work the hipsweep and the kimura. Werdum will take this one in one way or another, submitting Lesnar regardless of how Brock tries to escape the guard.

Frank Mir (11-3-0) vs Brock Lesnar (2-1-0)

I’m usually okay with speculating on fights that aren’t going to happen, this one, though, isn’t really interesting. I think this fight, though, will be alot slower, because Brock won’t just bullrush Frank again. I don’t think that Brock will TKO Frank, but I don’t think he will get submitted either. This should be an easy three round win for Brock, but I’d love to see Frank catch him.

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (31-4-1) vs Brock Lesnar (2-1-0)

There are some days when anything can happen, and there are other days where a fighter is better in every facet of the game that his opponent. That is how this fight looks to me. Neither of these guys really throw kicks, so I don’t honestly believe that this will be anything other than a boxing match standing up, but if that does happen, Nogueira sees like the decisive winner. On the ground, it’s almost impossible to give this fight to Lesnar. Lesnar is going to step in against a submission game that is built to kill wrestlers, that is built off of the combo that the groundnpound feeds into, that Lesnar opens himself up to when he decides to attack, that armbar/triangle/omoplata sequence. Lesnar shouldn’t ever ask for this fight, because we know he doesn’t deserve to be a title contender, but if he does, as a result of his ego, he’s in serious trouble.

It’s hard to give Lesnar a shot in a division so well constructed out of submission fighters. While alot of the serious heavyweights are gone, the ones that remain are the most dangerous for Lesnar, the ones who can catch him off their backs, which is exactly what Brock needs to learn to defend and work around.

He has a future in this division, because of his charisma, but if he’s going to do anything in the near future besides beat the no-names and wash-outs that the UFC brings in to fight him, he’s going to need to show a new facet of his game. Otherwise, he’s just as legitimate as he was when he showed up, not very.

Filed Under: Opinion • UFC

Tags: Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira • Brock Lesnar • Fabricio Werdum • Gabriel Gonzaga • Jake O'Brien

About the Author: Joshua Stein is a writer and editor for MMA Opinion. He has worked as a photographer and journalist and has a number of print journalism credits. He also works as a moderator for MMAForum.com and a grappling columnist (covering judo, collegiate wrestling, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and submission grappling) for profighting-fans.com.

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  1. Brandt says:
    August 12, 2008 at 10:41 am

    Nice article, Josh. I’m looking forward to see Lesnar against someone who is a little more well-rounded. Herring can survive on the ground, but he has little offense. I’d like to see what some of the big BJJ guys can do with Lesnar on their back.

  2. curtis says:
    August 12, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    B,
    Lesnar needs to establish his standup. His ground game will not be top level in the next few years, it just wont happen. If he gets into a ground battle with BJJ black belts then he is fighting into their strength and would lose more than win.

    He needs to establish a good ground defense but work on his footwork and kicks. He is a monster and stronger than pretty much everyone in the UFC. If he hits you, it could be lights out. If he fins a way to fight to his strengths he will do fine, but if not he won’t be around but for only a few more fights. You can’t pay a guy 250,000 thousand dollars to be .500

  3. Brandt DeLorenzo says:
    August 12, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    He’s too jumpy and just needs to settle back and find a comfortable zone. He’d lose quickly against a Machida-type fighter because he would rush into an offensive and get hurt quick. He’s big and fast, definitely, and the UFC will use him for a while considering how well he draws crowds. He’s no GSP in Montreal, but more people my local bar were more excited to see him than anyone else. That’s drawing power right there.

  4. Josh Stein says:
    August 13, 2008 at 1:38 am

    Curtis, you can say the exact same thing for any wrestler. I could say the same about Cain, and it’d be true.

    He needs to work on his standup and his submission defense.

    The problem with his game is that he’s not working his one dimension to the point where he’s a monster on the ground. If he was a world class grappler, he could get away with being one dimensional, especially given his wrestling background and the quality of the UFC heavyweight division.

    He needs to sit down on the mat and listen to a Jeff Monson or a Roger Gracie seminar and learn some jiu-jitsu to the point where his submission game is a threat (and the way he’s built, that would make him a serious force) and he needs to work his clinch offense to the point where he can do alot of damage from point blank range, as a way of moving into the ground fighting element.

    His standup isn’t world class, but he’s not going to sprawl-and-brawl in this division, that gameplan makes no sense.

    If I’m Brock’s manager (or his brain) I’m telling him to go train with a world class grappler and really cultivate those skills. With his athleticism, that can really make a difference in the division.

  5. Brock Lesnar says:
    September 3, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    Looks like you didn’t know what you were talking about buddy. I am getting a title shot Nov 15. I am bigger, stronger and younger. I will control Couture like he is a middleweight.

  6. Josh Stein says:
    September 3, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    Brock, though this is probably a troll, read my article.

    You don’t deserve that shot and everyone (except, maybe, the parasites that live in your colon) knows it.

  7. Brock Lesnar says:
    September 4, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    I guess at this point what does it matter who deserves what. I am employed by the UFC and I fight who they tell me too. This will be the biggest UFC event ever and I have a little to do with that so maybe I do deserve it. I have a lot to work on and I will be ready come Nov. 15th.

  8. Josh Stein says:
    September 4, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    Brock, I never said it was your fault that you got a fight you don’t deserve. I blame, entirely, the UFC management for that.

    This will be the highest grossing UFC event ever, and it will be because of you. The significance of the fight, however, remains to be seen.

    Oh, and post a real email address, otherwise you’re just a troll.

  9. T says:
    December 1, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    all the fights that brock has had people are always saying how hes going to get beat because he has not experience….when he fought herring it was the same thing, same with couture…..all of a sudden when brock beats these guys up people say they were not really good contenders for one reason or another, basically making excuses. Brock is dominant and has some skill to be up there competeting with some of these top notch guys. It sounds like everytime brock is going to fight they count brock out, when he wins here come the excuses…..give him the credit for being a true althelete and being able to step up and fight at the highest level which not everyone can do…..lets face it, brock is a true althelete and has the drive and motivation to become a huge name in UFC. he is a true draw for the UFC and brings in the numbers. thats why he makes more money.
    and as he marketed himself in the WWE, brock lesnar is the NEXT BIG THING….like it or not…..by the way, Kimbo is a street fighter and a loooooser who shouldnt be fighting in the ring. Is that what you idiots call and athelete???

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