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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/07/01/thoughts-on-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-1463</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 04:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said, Forrest rises to the occasion. Both fighters showed a lot of heart and helped the sport of MMA with their performances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said, Forrest rises to the occasion. Both fighters showed a lot of heart and helped the sport of MMA with their performances.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/07/01/thoughts-on-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-1458</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 04:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,

Forrest is out of Extreme Couture, which is the most successful camp today. It has passed Miletich completely. You have some of the top fighters in every weight class there.

Forrest is training with Couture, Wandy Silva, Goran Reljic, Vitor Belfort, Bonnar, Kampmann...the list goes on. He has Robert Drysdale and Jacare working with him on BJJ.

Forrest has Couture, Frazier and Shawn Tompkins as trainers. Tompkins is one of the best today and was largely responsible for Dan Henderson&#039;s return to peak form. Interestinly enough, his last two losses occured after Shawn left to run Xtreme Couture.

As far as Rampage taking Forrest lightly, he has made many comments about this being  an easier fight. He said he would never have fought Chuck or Dan after a nine-month layoff, but this is a fight that he can do that for. Tell me that does not sound like he is looking past Forrest.

Everyone is saying Forrest has no chance. Everyone said the same thing before the Ortiz fight and before the Shogun fight.

As I said, I think Rampage will win, but he has to be focused. His weaknesses (dislike of training, trouble getting motivated at times...though Ibarra has helped with that) are Forrest&#039;s strengths. Nobody trains harder than Forrest. 

Rampage has been training, but he has also been trying out for movies and talking to agents about pos films.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,</p>
<p>Forrest is out of Extreme Couture, which is the most successful camp today. It has passed Miletich completely. You have some of the top fighters in every weight class there.</p>
<p>Forrest is training with Couture, Wandy Silva, Goran Reljic, Vitor Belfort, Bonnar, Kampmann&#8230;the list goes on. He has Robert Drysdale and Jacare working with him on BJJ.</p>
<p>Forrest has Couture, Frazier and Shawn Tompkins as trainers. Tompkins is one of the best today and was largely responsible for Dan Henderson&#8217;s return to peak form. Interestinly enough, his last two losses occured after Shawn left to run Xtreme Couture.</p>
<p>As far as Rampage taking Forrest lightly, he has made many comments about this being  an easier fight. He said he would never have fought Chuck or Dan after a nine-month layoff, but this is a fight that he can do that for. Tell me that does not sound like he is looking past Forrest.</p>
<p>Everyone is saying Forrest has no chance. Everyone said the same thing before the Ortiz fight and before the Shogun fight.</p>
<p>As I said, I think Rampage will win, but he has to be focused. His weaknesses (dislike of training, trouble getting motivated at times&#8230;though Ibarra has helped with that) are Forrest&#8217;s strengths. Nobody trains harder than Forrest. </p>
<p>Rampage has been training, but he has also been trying out for movies and talking to agents about pos films.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh "The IronMan" Stein</title>
		<link>http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/07/01/thoughts-on-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-1455</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh "The IronMan" Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy, you really think that?

This is a guy that trains with Juanito Ibarra, one of the best coaches in the entire sport (arguably, #3 behind Jackson and Miletich).

Forrest works hard, but I&#039;ve seen Page&#039;s conditioning, it&#039;s pretty phenomenal.

Page spars with guys like Vera and Kongo. They&#039;re definitely better than the guys that Forrest is working with.

You have no basis to say Rampage is taking Forrest lightly. Maybe he is, but Rampage hasn&#039;t taken a fight lightly before. Even the times he&#039;s gotten his ass kicked, he&#039;s taken his opponents pretty seriously. Rampage was simply making the objective point that Liddell and Hendo are more accomplished fighters than Forrest, and, honestly, that&#039;s true. Both have held multiple titles, and Forrest is looking at his first fight. It&#039;s a different thing to step in against guys who have fought at this level before, Forrest hasn&#039;t.

I agree that Forrest has nothing to lose in this fight, and I expect him to go balls to the wall. Still, I don&#039;t think he&#039;s going to win. At best, he&#039;ll make it exciting. But anything can happen.

Honestly, I expect Kos/Lytle to be a snoozefest, with Kos returning to that &quot;whup ass by decision gameplan.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, you really think that?</p>
<p>This is a guy that trains with Juanito Ibarra, one of the best coaches in the entire sport (arguably, #3 behind Jackson and Miletich).</p>
<p>Forrest works hard, but I&#8217;ve seen Page&#8217;s conditioning, it&#8217;s pretty phenomenal.</p>
<p>Page spars with guys like Vera and Kongo. They&#8217;re definitely better than the guys that Forrest is working with.</p>
<p>You have no basis to say Rampage is taking Forrest lightly. Maybe he is, but Rampage hasn&#8217;t taken a fight lightly before. Even the times he&#8217;s gotten his ass kicked, he&#8217;s taken his opponents pretty seriously. Rampage was simply making the objective point that Liddell and Hendo are more accomplished fighters than Forrest, and, honestly, that&#8217;s true. Both have held multiple titles, and Forrest is looking at his first fight. It&#8217;s a different thing to step in against guys who have fought at this level before, Forrest hasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I agree that Forrest has nothing to lose in this fight, and I expect him to go balls to the wall. Still, I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s going to win. At best, he&#8217;ll make it exciting. But anything can happen.</p>
<p>Honestly, I expect Kos/Lytle to be a snoozefest, with Kos returning to that &#8220;whup ass by decision gameplan.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make some good points, but
Forrest has a FAR BETTER camp than Rampge.
Forrest has a far stronger work ethic.
Forrest has better sparring partners.

I think Rampage certainly is the favorite here, but I also think he is taking Forrest lightly. That could be a factor. Rampage said that having nine months off was ok when facing Forrest, but he would not have fought Hendo or Liddell after that period of inactivity.

Forrest has nothing to lose and everything to gain.

I think that Rampage will win, but if he is not focused, he could be upset. Forrest is a hard-working, hard-hitting fighter that seems to rise to the occasion when facing top guys.

I think it, along with Kos/Lytle, will be fun fights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make some good points, but<br />
Forrest has a FAR BETTER camp than Rampge.<br />
Forrest has a far stronger work ethic.<br />
Forrest has better sparring partners.</p>
<p>I think Rampage certainly is the favorite here, but I also think he is taking Forrest lightly. That could be a factor. Rampage said that having nine months off was ok when facing Forrest, but he would not have fought Hendo or Liddell after that period of inactivity.</p>
<p>Forrest has nothing to lose and everything to gain.</p>
<p>I think that Rampage will win, but if he is not focused, he could be upset. Forrest is a hard-working, hard-hitting fighter that seems to rise to the occasion when facing top guys.</p>
<p>I think it, along with Kos/Lytle, will be fun fights.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Rampage should win this fight, but you can&#039;t blame Forrest for being confident.  As a fighter, he has to be confident.  It&#039;s not delusional thinking, because every opponent can potentially be beaten.  Many people thought Forrest was &quot;delusional&quot; to think he could beat Shogun before that fight happened, and even though Shogun obviously wasn&#039;t himself in that fight, you still have to give Forrest credit for the win.

Forrest stepped up, and can be counted on to fight his best fight.  It probably won&#039;t be enough, but give him credit for having balls and giving a great effort. He&#039;s willing to take the risk. Nothing delusional about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Rampage should win this fight, but you can&#8217;t blame Forrest for being confident.  As a fighter, he has to be confident.  It&#8217;s not delusional thinking, because every opponent can potentially be beaten.  Many people thought Forrest was &#8220;delusional&#8221; to think he could beat Shogun before that fight happened, and even though Shogun obviously wasn&#8217;t himself in that fight, you still have to give Forrest credit for the win.</p>
<p>Forrest stepped up, and can be counted on to fight his best fight.  It probably won&#8217;t be enough, but give him credit for having balls and giving a great effort. He&#8217;s willing to take the risk. Nothing delusional about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandt DeLorenzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandt DeLorenzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first thought about this fight, back when TUF 7 was announced, I was gunning for Forrest all the way. I thought back then that his win over Rua showed that he was ready to take that belt from Rampage and flow through the rest of the division. Maybe I was a bit delusional as well. Now, I&#039;m thinking not so much. I know Griffin is going to come out ready to hit hard with a solid gameplan and an edge on the ground game. So did Dan Henderson, an olympic wrestler with solid credentials on the ground and the &quot;gorilla grip&quot; in the clinch, back at UFC 75. So what did Rampage do? He basically just fought it out with Henderson and never really let him get an advantage throughout the fight. I&#039;m thinking we&#039;ll see the same thing here. We know Rampage can go 25 minutes and as shown by the epic Bonnar fight at TUF 1, we know that Griffin can take some shots. So what&#039;s it gonna be? Another decision. That&#039;s what I foresee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first thought about this fight, back when TUF 7 was announced, I was gunning for Forrest all the way. I thought back then that his win over Rua showed that he was ready to take that belt from Rampage and flow through the rest of the division. Maybe I was a bit delusional as well. Now, I&#8217;m thinking not so much. I know Griffin is going to come out ready to hit hard with a solid gameplan and an edge on the ground game. So did Dan Henderson, an olympic wrestler with solid credentials on the ground and the &#8220;gorilla grip&#8221; in the clinch, back at UFC 75. So what did Rampage do? He basically just fought it out with Henderson and never really let him get an advantage throughout the fight. I&#8217;m thinking we&#8217;ll see the same thing here. We know Rampage can go 25 minutes and as shown by the epic Bonnar fight at TUF 1, we know that Griffin can take some shots. So what&#8217;s it gonna be? Another decision. That&#8217;s what I foresee.</p>
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