Comments on: Adjusting to the Octagon: Wanderlei’s Problem http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/05/18/adjusting-to-the-octagon/ MMA Opinion and Cheap MMA Gear Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:45:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: crocop be http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/05/18/adjusting-to-the-octagon/comment-page-1/#comment-889 crocop be Sun, 25 May 2008 12:52:18 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/?p=560#comment-889 [...] bandwagon because he lost a few fights, he??s fallen on some hard times. So I??ll start by sayinhttp://www.mmaopinion.com/2008/05/18/adjusting-to-the-octagon/UFC 84 predictions Slam! SportsBJ Penn and Sean Sherk faceoff for the UFC Lightweight Championship. [...] [...] bandwagon because he lost a few fights, he??s fallen on some hard times. So I??ll start by sayinhttp://www.mmaopinion.com/2008/05/18/adjusting-to-the-octagon/UFC 84 predictions Slam! SportsBJ Penn and Sean Sherk faceoff for the UFC Lightweight Championship. [...]

]]> By: Marshall http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/05/18/adjusting-to-the-octagon/comment-page-1/#comment-868 Marshall Sat, 24 May 2008 02:07:10 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/?p=560#comment-868 Just wanted to let you guys know that the Axe murderer has 4 fights in the Octagon he lost to Vitor Belfort at UFC Brazil,Then he got his first and only UFC Octagon Victory at UFC 20 over Tony Petarra by KO with his trademark knees to the face,then he left the UFC(though in between the Belfort fight and the Petarra fight he fought twice in the IVC)Then he lost to Tito Ortiz for the vacant UFC MW title (left vacant by Frank Shamrock,the title would later be changed to the LHW title)then he left for Japan though he had 1 Meca fight in Brazil,Then the UFC screwed us outta Pride FC (along with a little help from the Yakuza scandal)and then Wanderlei made his way back to the UFC and lost to Chuck Liddell.So Wanderlei is 1-3-0 in the UFC Octagon But hopefully he's gonna be 2-3-0 after this saturday. Just wanted to let you guys know that the Axe murderer has 4 fights in the Octagon he lost to Vitor Belfort at UFC Brazil,Then he got his first and only UFC Octagon Victory at UFC 20 over Tony Petarra by KO with his trademark knees to the face,then he left the UFC(though in between the Belfort fight and the Petarra fight he fought twice in the IVC)Then he lost to Tito Ortiz for the vacant UFC MW title (left vacant by Frank Shamrock,the title would later be changed to the LHW title)then he left for Japan though he had 1 Meca fight in Brazil,Then the UFC screwed us outta Pride FC (along with a little help from the Yakuza scandal)and then Wanderlei made his way back to the UFC and lost to Chuck Liddell.So Wanderlei is 1-3-0 in the UFC Octagon But hopefully he’s gonna be 2-3-0 after this saturday.

]]> By: Josh "The IronMan" Stein http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/05/18/adjusting-to-the-octagon/comment-page-1/#comment-850 Josh "The IronMan" Stein Thu, 22 May 2008 02:05:08 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/?p=560#comment-850 George, Wanderlei has two fights in the Octagon. You're right that one of them was a while ago, but he had this exact same problem. As for your analysis of the fight, I agree with you. I thought that if Wanderlei could have kept that fight standing and won, but that's beside the point too. If Chuck didn't have the Octagon (which is considerably bigger than the cage), where would he have run off to play possum too? He tried to play that game against Rampage in Pride, and he got caught against the ropes and was subsequently smashed into a pulpified mess. That was why Chuck could never have been a top fighter in the ring. George, Wanderlei has two fights in the Octagon. You’re right that one of them was a while ago, but he had this exact same problem.

As for your analysis of the fight, I agree with you. I thought that if Wanderlei could have kept that fight standing and won, but that’s beside the point too.

If Chuck didn’t have the Octagon (which is considerably bigger than the cage), where would he have run off to play possum too?

He tried to play that game against Rampage in Pride, and he got caught against the ropes and was subsequently smashed into a pulpified mess. That was why Chuck could never have been a top fighter in the ring.

]]> By: George Lucas http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/05/18/adjusting-to-the-octagon/comment-page-1/#comment-837 George Lucas Wed, 21 May 2008 18:11:50 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/?p=560#comment-837 This is not a compelling argument. Since leaving PRIDE, Silva has had precisely ONE fight in the octagon in which he took a powerful counter-striker to decision precisely because he was able to play possum against the cage in an effort to initiate the exchanges that he's so good at at a range that negated the backwards-walking counterstriking his oppenent was so well known for. If it hadn't been for Chuck's random takedowns, the scoring might actually have favored Wanderlei's striking enough to award him the decision or at least a split. Wanderlei also should have at least attempted a thai clinch + knees when the fighting got close in, but it's hardly the octagon's fault that he didn't. Cro Cop certainly had trouble against the fence, but it remains to be seen whether or not Silva shares that weakness. This is not a compelling argument. Since leaving PRIDE, Silva has had precisely ONE fight in the octagon in which he took a powerful counter-striker to decision precisely because he was able to play possum against the cage in an effort to initiate the exchanges that he’s so good at at a range that negated the backwards-walking counterstriking his oppenent was so well known for.

If it hadn’t been for Chuck’s random takedowns, the scoring might actually have favored Wanderlei’s striking enough to award him the decision or at least a split. Wanderlei also should have at least attempted a thai clinch + knees when the fighting got close in, but it’s hardly the octagon’s fault that he didn’t.

Cro Cop certainly had trouble against the fence, but it remains to be seen whether or not Silva shares that weakness.

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