Comments on: UFC 82: Fallout and the Future http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/03/02/ufc-82-fallout-and-the-future/ MMA Opinion and Cheap MMA Gear Tue, 03 Jan 2012 15:47:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Josh Stein http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/03/02/ufc-82-fallout-and-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-391 Josh Stein Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:35:05 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/2008/03/02/ufc-82-fallout-and-the-future/#comment-391 Cote beat McFedries, who's hardly a nobody. He was also a runnerup on TUF 4 and lost to a very tough Travis Lutter (not the same Lutter we saw fight Silva, though I still think he was mildly impressive in that fight, despite that his only attack in the entire match was the double leg). Cote has also been officially announced by Dana as a contender, so whether you agree with that or not, he's definitely in the mix. (Let's also not forget that his fight with Ortiz was controversial, and that's kept him in the public eye more than some think he deserves, but he's also a seriously underrated fighter) Still, he's beaten Scott Smith (a very tough, respectable striker, though he didn't finish him), Grove (who I think was overrated, but was still a TUF winner) and McFedries, who many people (myself included) think was kicking the crap out of Kampmann when they fought until he got caught in the choke. Personally, I think that the thought of Okami competing again against Silva is there, it's just minimal. That's my feeling, clearly many of you disagree. I just don't think that beating Tanner shows that the UFC really cares much about him and where he goes. (still, the fact that the fight was pushed a little bit shows something else too, and you can read into it what you want) Cote beat McFedries, who’s hardly a nobody. He was also a runnerup on TUF 4 and lost to a very tough Travis Lutter (not the same Lutter we saw fight Silva, though I still think he was mildly impressive in that fight, despite that his only attack in the entire match was the double leg).

Cote has also been officially announced by Dana as a contender, so whether you agree with that or not, he’s definitely in the mix. (Let’s also not forget that his fight with Ortiz was controversial, and that’s kept him in the public eye more than some think he deserves, but he’s also a seriously underrated fighter)

Still, he’s beaten Scott Smith (a very tough, respectable striker, though he didn’t finish him), Grove (who I think was overrated, but was still a TUF winner) and McFedries, who many people (myself included) think was kicking the crap out of Kampmann when they fought until he got caught in the choke.

Personally, I think that the thought of Okami competing again against Silva is there, it’s just minimal. That’s my feeling, clearly many of you disagree. I just don’t think that beating Tanner shows that the UFC really cares much about him and where he goes. (still, the fact that the fight was pushed a little bit shows something else too, and you can read into it what you want)

]]> By: Dj willy http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/03/02/ufc-82-fallout-and-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-388 Dj willy Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:25:28 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/2008/03/02/ufc-82-fallout-and-the-future/#comment-388 Cote? Please. He's beaten a couple of nobodies. NOBODIES! Did you even see the Okami/Franklin fight? Franklin got embarrassed. Cote lost to Leben, who lost to MacDonald, who lost to Okami. So how is it that Cote gets the chance? Oh he also lost to Lutter, so yeah, you need to stop watching TUF. The world doesn't revolve around those punks. Cote? Please. He’s beaten a couple of nobodies. NOBODIES! Did you even see the Okami/Franklin fight? Franklin got embarrassed. Cote lost to Leben, who lost to MacDonald, who lost to Okami. So how is it that Cote gets the chance? Oh he also lost to Lutter, so yeah, you need to stop watching TUF. The world doesn’t revolve around those punks.

]]> By: Brandt DeLorenzo http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/03/02/ufc-82-fallout-and-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-386 Brandt DeLorenzo Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:04:31 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/2008/03/02/ufc-82-fallout-and-the-future/#comment-386 He was taken to the ground by a Henderson, a guy who is known for going the entire fight standing or on the ground, and submitted him nicely. We can be goofy with fighter math and say that Anderson Silva > Rampage Jackson. ;) He was taken to the ground by a Henderson, a guy who is known for going the entire fight standing or on the ground, and submitted him nicely. We can be goofy with fighter math and say that Anderson Silva > Rampage Jackson. ;)

]]> By: Chuck http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/03/02/ufc-82-fallout-and-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-384 Chuck Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:17:48 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/2008/03/02/ufc-82-fallout-and-the-future/#comment-384 I'm not sure that Koschek "destroyed" Hazellet. That's not entirely accurate. If anything Hazellet showed he's got some serious skills and belongs in the division. He gave Koscheck all he could handle. With that said Koscheck certainly looked better with his striking- at least offensively. He still has little when it comes to counter/defensive striking. And regarding Okami as a gatekeeper I don't agree. If the division actually had more top level talent then that might apply but realistically Okami is up there as a top contender like it or not. Guys like Kampmann and Cote certainly classify as gatekeepers in my mind. In fact, Okami stylistically has a chance in a Silva rematch as his strengths lie in the ground game. Silva has shown that he's dangerous anywhere but standing with him just isn't an option, fortunately, unlike Chuck Liddell- another dangerous striker, Silva can be taken the ground relatively easily. I predict that may be his undoing. I’m not sure that Koschek “destroyed” Hazellet. That’s not entirely accurate. If anything Hazellet showed he’s got some serious skills and belongs in the division. He gave Koscheck all he could handle. With that said Koscheck certainly looked better with his striking- at least offensively. He still has little when it comes to counter/defensive striking.

And regarding Okami as a gatekeeper I don’t agree. If the division actually had more top level talent then that might apply but realistically Okami is up there as a top contender like it or not. Guys like Kampmann and Cote certainly classify as gatekeepers in my mind.

In fact, Okami stylistically has a chance in a Silva rematch as his strengths lie in the ground game. Silva has shown that he’s dangerous anywhere but standing with him just isn’t an option, fortunately, unlike Chuck Liddell- another dangerous striker, Silva can be taken the ground relatively easily. I predict that may be his undoing.

]]> By: Brandt DeLorenzo http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/03/02/ufc-82-fallout-and-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-380 Brandt DeLorenzo Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:31:31 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/2008/03/02/ufc-82-fallout-and-the-future/#comment-380 I don't see Okami doing anything either. He only beat Evan Tanner, a guy who hasn't found since April of 2006 in a boring fight. I could see the UFC not wanting him to even get a chance at Silva because if he does somehow get a decision win, it'll be another Tim Sylvia scenario. Too bad Ryo Chonan lost to Karo Parisyan or else a rematch would be coming up. Instead we have Karo wanting easy fights so he can go for that exciting decision win! I don’t see Okami doing anything either. He only beat Evan Tanner, a guy who hasn’t found since April of 2006 in a boring fight.

I could see the UFC not wanting him to even get a chance at Silva because if he does somehow get a decision win, it’ll be another Tim Sylvia scenario.

Too bad Ryo Chonan lost to Karo Parisyan or else a rematch would be coming up. Instead we have Karo wanting easy fights so he can go for that exciting decision win!

]]> By: Josh Stein http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/03/02/ufc-82-fallout-and-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-377 Josh Stein Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:52:52 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/2008/03/02/ufc-82-fallout-and-the-future/#comment-377 How's Okami a top contender? He dropped a fight to Franklin, who's no longer in contention (at least as long as Silva is the title holder) and his wins are over MacDonald (also no longer really in contention) and Tanner (who hadn't had a fight for 23 UFC events, not counting UFNs and TUFs). I don't see it. Maybe because he deserves a fight to avenge his beaurocratic loss. But honestly, I see contention right now being between Cote and Kampmann, and I don't really think that Okami's negotiable in that picture (though, now that I think about it, if he fought McFedries, I could see him working his way back in). How’s Okami a top contender?

He dropped a fight to Franklin, who’s no longer in contention (at least as long as Silva is the title holder) and his wins are over MacDonald (also no longer really in contention) and Tanner (who hadn’t had a fight for 23 UFC events, not counting UFNs and TUFs).

I don’t see it. Maybe because he deserves a fight to avenge his beaurocratic loss. But honestly, I see contention right now being between Cote and Kampmann, and I don’t really think that Okami’s negotiable in that picture (though, now that I think about it, if he fought McFedries, I could see him working his way back in).

]]> By: ilostmydog http://www.mmaopinion.com/blog/2008/03/02/ufc-82-fallout-and-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-376 ilostmydog Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:26:42 +0000 http://www.mmaopinion.com/2008/03/02/ufc-82-fallout-and-the-future/#comment-376 Okami a gatekeeper? LULZ. More like top contender to the belt. Okami a gatekeeper? LULZ. More like top contender to the belt.

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